Palmyra Residences

Palmyra Residences a residential property project by Belleview Group is located at Balik Pulau, Penang. The project comprised of 2-storey terrace and semi-detached house with a total 227 units. Each unit come with a built-up area ranging between 1,625 and 1,976 sq.ft.

Property Project : Palmyra Residences
Location : Balik Pulau, Penang
Property Type : Terrace, Semi-D
Tenure : Freehold
Built-up Area : 1,625 - 1,976 sq.ft.
Total Units : 227
Developer : Belleview Group


July 3, 2009 at 8:42 PMSun

Anybody already get hold of their S & P agreement copy which already stamped? How long the duration needed for stamping?

July 5, 2009 at 9:32 AMqq

wat u mean?i sign but i ask them hold it,,

July 5, 2009 at 10:50 AMFennie

We should keep one copy of the S&P agreement after stamping. I also haven't asked about when we should get it. Today newspaper more report on Education development in Balik Pulau.
About the house, I feel the ceiling fan point 3 only is too less.

July 7, 2009 at 7:24 PMlovely

Anyone know 2nd phase cost how much and when going to launch?

July 11, 2009 at 11:52 PMWong

Dear Lovely, this is the one that you recommended to me... so how it cost then????

July 12, 2009 at 12:00 PMlovely

Hi Wong,

Phase one left few unit and 2nd phase coming up they'll launch it on this coming 23.07.09 at Queenbays, you can check with them, if not my mistaken the 1st phase around rm393k type B(20x62), type A rm415k (20x64).

July 12, 2009 at 12:16 PMlovely

FYI, just imagine now economic slowdown or recession(material price drop) balik pulau area the housing price already at rm400k (don't compare to town area)some more double story and landed property, prai area also start to increase same as balik pulau, if economic recover how much will it cost?

July 12, 2009 at 2:23 PMMr.Business

Someone told me they launch the 1st phase on 13/06/2009 at Queensbay. The launching price is type A RM399900 (20x64).Bacause the response is so good, they increase the price for all types by RM20K on 16/06/2009. They are going to launch phase 2 on 24/07/2009 at Queensabay and the price is going to be increased by another RM20K.

July 12, 2009 at 2:27 PMMr.Business

Definitely Penang is having a property bubble, but when it is going to burst is anyone's guess. But current interest rate is so low (BLR 5.55% - 2.2% = 3.35%) that a fire sale is not very possible. To buy or not to buy Palmyra is your decision, be careful not to be influenced by people here.

July 12, 2009 at 2:29 PMMr.Business

Many people say that Penang property price alway up up up, never go down one, very similiar to those American thinking before 2007.

July 12, 2009 at 2:35 PMCitysleeker

Mr. Business

The US has abundant land. This is Penang island. Land is finite and right in the middle we have hills which are not develop-able. I have been a Penang property observer for many years now. During gd times, prices inch up much faster.... during bad times, prices tend to be stagnant at worst. Penang prices do not fall much coz those who bought are normally "cash rich" investors. Penang is Penang after all....

July 12, 2009 at 6:41 PMlovely

Yes, I agree with Citysleeker here, property in Pg Island won't come down, let's take low cost apart. pricing from rm50k in 90's, rm72500k now selling rm160k - rm170k just 600sf - 700sf only.

Even lease hold property fetching rm400k 900sf - 1200sq have to pay stupid maintenance every month, never ending.

Don't mention about landed property.

To Mr.Business,

Why compare to US, lets we compare within in msia only, cannot finish if we compare here and there.

July 13, 2009 at 4:41 PMeugene_tcb

To mr business

Penang is a island like Hong Kong.Land become less in the future.I think it is not so suitable to compare penang with US.US economy is caused by their loan system and the american mindset not the property.Do you see any property bubble in Hong Kong?

But i am quite agreed with you that never influenced by people here and we also must always create the economy bubble awareness.

July 13, 2009 at 5:50 PMMr.Business

The property market depend on economy development. The better the economy, the better the property market. Land is scare? Ha...So much land in Penang. Many people has their interest in this market: developer, property agent.
So of course they said property price always up, never down.

July 13, 2009 at 9:22 PMFennie

Yes i agree Penang island land is much more expensive from day to day. As people say,our new generation will not afford to buy landed house in future as the price grow faster than their income. I believe balik Pulau will be develop in next 10-15 years, by that time the infrastructure will be develop and the house price may be increase too, see Batu Maung start to be good price now.

July 14, 2009 at 10:34 PMAlveen Wee

I have view the show unit, the nvpa terrace is very nice and modernist. There are still ample of land in Balik Pulau near this project (PaLMyRA) to be developed such as hypermarket like Tesco, Giant, Carefour because Balik Pulau still lack of this facilities, i believe 5 to 8 years there will be a few hypermarket going up. What so, our govt. is planning to make it as a stragtegic education hub. Just see like Kampar in Ipoh, when Utar open, so many developement! I am know the the final phase for this project to be launch thi 23rd and 24th of this july 2009. :)

July 15, 2009 at 6:30 PMWong

Dear all,

Thanks for all you comments especially to Alveen.
Thanks for you incredible foreseeable future plan for Balik Pulau that we are looking forward....

July 15, 2009 at 11:25 PMAlveen Wee

Wong, you are most welcome. As we know, when we say penang island, we know that the developement started from georgetown then go to batu ferringhi and to bayan lepas, from bayan lepas. There are moving to the batu maung, and follow by teluk kumbar and the next phase there are going to be developed is BALIK PULAU. It is the right time to purchase now as the interest is low and also the material is cheap. Come sept, when govt decided to increase the petrol.. then to those who invest, you are lucky and to those who didnt and keep condemming.. you will lose the value.

July 23, 2009 at 11:10 AMbzbody

Balik Pulau is the next frontier.... Now is the time to pick up these properties. I can imagine when the Teluk Kumbar way has been completed, it can easily fetch 600k just like what Batu Maung is seeing now

July 23, 2009 at 12:11 PMMr.Business

Previously price for terrace is RM393900 (min) and for semi detached is RM520900 (min). Yesterday I read full page advertisement about Palmyra on Guang Hwa. Now min price for terrace is RM425888 and for semi detached is RM570900. That mean price increase by RM31988 to RM50000!

There is phase 2 launch at Queensbay Mall from 23/07/2009 to 26/07/2009. Anyone interested can take a look there.

July 23, 2009 at 9:34 PMpenangcool

Hi bzbody,

Did you grab a property in Balik Pulau? in which project/location? beside Palmyra, any other project that you think is worth to invest?

Palmyra shot up to RM425K, do you know why? is it becuase of the location or good property design? i think the prices goreng by developer itselft more than other.

July 23, 2009 at 10:17 PMlovely

Are you sure "bo" property in Ballik Pulau so laku and shoot up to rm425k, there are 2 type for teres and semi d, which one you mention?

July 23, 2009 at 10:31 PMpenangcool

i have no clues which type mentioned by Business 425K for Palmyra. Anybody know why Palmyra project price shoot up so fast, because of good location? or good design or......goreng by developer itselft let peoples to chase...hehe

July 24, 2009 at 9:59 AMbzbody


yes i have booked one DST, 20x62. i went to view the location, and immediately i made the booking due to the good location. near schools (SJKC & sec), shops etc. when u come down from the sua loh (mountain road), this is the first you see.

main gripe is the distance, and it's rather small, 62 feet, considering pinang village is 20x70.

July 24, 2009 at 10:47 AMMr.Business

The newspaper advertisement states terrace - RM425888 (minimum selling price).

Since type A (20 x 62) has the lowest price (previously RM393900), I think RM425888 refer to type A.

Location wise, I think Palmyra is better than Pinang Village. Once Teluk Kumbar highway is completed Nov 2010. The road to industrial area from Balik Pulau will be safer and better condition.

July 24, 2009 at 2:00 PMbzbody

Mr Business,

pricing for 20x62 is RM393900 while 20x64 is RM425888

July 24, 2009 at 5:32 PMMr.Business

What bzbody said make more sense. That mean price for type B (20 x 64) increase from RM419900 to RM425888 (+RM5988), while price for type A remains RM393900.

July 24, 2009 at 8:13 PMFennie

I bought Type B (20X64) when first day launching, it was $379K and in second day, it increased to $399K. The price goreng by developer when they see good response in second day lauching. I like the design of this house and it is a big project too compare to others in Balik Pulau. But I'm still feel it is a bit far from Bayan Lepas.

July 24, 2009 at 9:52 PMlovely

wow! Just different 2sq ft these house price different so much.

July 24, 2009 at 10:41 PMpenangcool


you can consider the DST 20*70 located at Pondok Upeh which near to Balik Pulau town.

One is Taman Cyrstal (OC obtained), another is Taman Nyaman, OC coming soon.


July 27, 2009 at 10:06 AMMr.Business

The response for Palmyra project at Queensbay is very good. A lot of unit seemed to be taken up. Personally I think I think the house design is quite nice. Price wise I am not so sure. Let us see if the price appreciation will be 30% as developer claimed.

Now price for type A (20 x 60) is RM398900 while
price for type B (20 x 64) is RM424900.

July 27, 2009 at 10:10 AMMr.Business

To Lovely,
I remember type B is facing east and the type A units. While 1 row of type A is facing west and the other row of type A is facing tnb and retention pond. That is why the price difference (I think so).

July 27, 2009 at 10:23 AMMr.Business

Oh, yesterday I went to check the response. Type A stlll have 15 units, type B have 19 units while SemiD have 4 units available for booking.

July 27, 2009 at 3:20 PMbzbody

Mr business,

I didnt realize there would be a retention pond beside TNB. As I know currently there are existing houses at that area. May i know where did u get the info regarding the retention pond?

July 27, 2009 at 4:01 PMMr.Business

Hi bzbody,
Please confirm with salesperson there.

By the way,

July 27, 2009 at 6:55 PMlovely

May I know where the retention pond & TNB station, it is near phase 1 or phase 2.

July 27, 2009 at 7:13 PMlovely

To Mr.Business

From what I knew type A is 20x62 not 20x60 and the developer will make smaller in future to 20x60?

The room very small like buying low cost apartment except master bedroom.

July 27, 2009 at 7:18 PMMr.Business

Sorry typo.
type A should be 20 x 62.

July 28, 2009 at 10:04 AMbzbody

Hi Mr Business,

You are right, I checked with the salesperson. There is a rain water retention pond (Department of Irrigation) beside TNB. However we shouldn't confuse this with sewage pond (糞池 - Indah water) which is located near the low cost units that they are going to build.

I hope I cleared some air (no pun intended) over this

Retention pond :
Some info

July 28, 2009 at 12:33 PMMr.Business

Actually the plan the salesperson showed me marks 3 location for retention pond. Which goes to Department of Irrigation and which goes to Indah water??

However I hope you are right.

July 28, 2009 at 12:52 PMlovely

For those who bought type A, facing empty area for sure disappointed, in future these row house price will effected.

July 28, 2009 at 1:21 PMMr.Business

I thought normally people do not buy house facing empty area, because you won't know one day it may become an apartment, a masjid, a temple...etc.

Actually even the show houses are facing 5 storey low cost flat and Indah Water. If me I won't buy it. Just try to imagine the conditions of the low cost flats after few more years?

July 28, 2009 at 8:28 PMFennie

Mr Business, now I understand why 3 & 3A plot still not yet sold out. It is near to low cost flat. Initially i thought people pantang for this number.

July 30, 2009 at 1:03 AMPalmyra's Buyer

For Palmyra buyers,

Do come over to my blog where I have posted some related news and links. Will likely be going there next week to take some photos of the site progress and keep all the buyers updated

July 30, 2009 at 9:23 AMbzbody

hi all,

really appreciate ur feedback. what u guys say makes sense. but i guess it's too late to change now. i'm a newbie property investor, this is only my third landed purchase in PG.
hope u guys can impart more knowledge sharing

July 30, 2009 at 9:27 AMbzbody

dear "Palmyra's Buyer"

Thanks and good job for the initiative. Glad to see my future 'neighbours' are keen and enthusiastic....

Keep it up

July 30, 2009 at 8:57 PMFennie

Dear Palmyra Buyer,
I have read your blog, i absolutely agree with your comments and thanks for creating blog and keep us update on the progress.

Good Comments:
1) have 2 more ceiling fan points for the 2nd and 3rd room
2) the small balcony at the 2nd bedroom is not really necessary. - I plan to roboh it....but must be expensive.
3)include a balcony instead of letting the car park roof top go to a waste. At least we can hang our laundry there
4) Instead of having a maid's room, to have a nice 4th room with a window for ventilation. Not everyone can afford (or want) a maid.

August 3, 2009 at 12:27 PMlavendar

I felt that thr layout of Palmyra is quite small if compare to another Balik Pulau project,i mean Pinang Village at Kampung Sungai Pinang.I agree what lovely said,like buying a low cost apartment. They can't claim that there r 4 room but just 3+1,the room at downstair like store room.

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August 6, 2009 at 8:17 PMqq

just wanna ask phase 1 which u gal say facing empty ....... no value??

August 7, 2009 at 12:42 PMlovely

Hi qq,

Do you have any new information about facing empty space???

August 7, 2009 at 8:05 PMMr.Business

1. Palmyra is very near to Teluk Kumbar highway (?), convenient if you want to go to Industrial area through Teluk Kumbar and Batu Maung. The highway will be completed end of 2010.

2. Palmyra is located at education zone, I think is a relative good location compared to other Balik Pulau Area.

August 21, 2009 at 7:37 PMlovely

Anyone know when this project will start and how many % been sold?

August 22, 2009 at 3:45 PMqq

lovely , sorry ya i hv no info about that ... anyway buy already no U turn liao... but i call n ask the lot that i buy didnt near TNB. devoloper hvent ask for 2nd payment but i heard quite soon early sept so i think should been start... i also blur blur.. lovely,ohase 1 or 2 that u buy?

August 22, 2009 at 11:20 PMlovely

hi qq,

when you pay for your 2nd payment means that the house already getting O.C or your key.

everyone getting their 0% interest until the house completed, free s n p and etc (free package). I bought phase 1, how about you?

August 28, 2009 at 8:59 PMqq

hi lovely,
sorry ya now then i reply u ... i bought phase 1 too .. till now they never ask for progress payment ..wat u say is correct i buy cash that y bit different .1st payment 10% .i bit worry when they going complete... cause they say the date stamping start 24month right?from the blog i saw another buyer say nothing much different still the u think?? r u pay sign snp already?

August 30, 2009 at 8:59 AMFennie

I think we shouldn't worry, Belleview is well known developer and when they start build, it will be fast,may be less than 18 months to complete for landed house. Moreover, there's no old house at the land now, it will not repeat for Oasis case. Let's wait and see...

August 30, 2009 at 8:35 PMqq

thanks for ur message,Fennie..

September 3, 2009 at 6:50 PMlovely


I'm not paying anything when sign SnP and today Belleview all their project will finish in 5 year time not sure Palmyra Residences including in. Anyone know?

September 27, 2009 at 9:21 PMjack

Hi Palmyra's Owner,

I visited the site yesterday. The piling is in progress now. Looking forward the progress from time to time...:)


September 30, 2009 at 8:33 PMFennie

Yupe,I saw the project is in progress now. The show unit only availble in weekend.

October 19, 2009 at 12:03 PMB'jan

why the house's price way too high? even its located other side of the island?..i believe most of local residence there unaffordable to have one, compare to their average household's income, unless town's people willing to come in,of course..the margin should be not exceed than 300k at current day.

October 22, 2009 at 11:41 PMyinpeiwei

Any idea when the Teluk Kumbar road will complete? I heard the project was just until the tangki air , not include the 2 lane road (with 2 row of shoplot) from balai polis to CIMB bank.
Try before , driving from air port to Sungai batu took me about 30 minute. Terrible.
I guess it will take 5 - 10 years time to complete the road.Not easy to relocate all the shoplot and house beside the road.
How to stay in balik pulau if you have to wake up 6am and driving 1 - 1.5 hours to work ?
Wonder you all consider this or not ?

October 23, 2009 at 5:10 PMeugene_tcb

To yinpeiwei,
According to newspaper,the express way from teluk kumbar to balik pulau will complete by 2010.Buy i donno how true of this statement.

Yes,may b u r rite.Balik Pulau is a bit too far from city even bayan lepas or batu maung.May b we should buy the house located at tanjung bungah, town area, batu maung or etc.It is much convenient i guess.

But do u know how much own a DST at above area?Example,batu maung southbay project the price of super link house is RM800k++.Or we can own a condominium such as UDA holding project,the price is RM320k++ but how much we need to pay the installment & maintenance fee? do u calculate the maintenance fee per month for a 1000sqf of condo?do u feel tat worth to pay the fee? Or u hav another choice,buy a RM500k++ DST old terrace.Again,do u feel tat worth it to buy?

I juz wanna share my personal opinion in this forum,no mean to offence any1.So,limited choice with the budgeted money lo....then sacrifice sleep time n wake up early,i think no harm for our body rite?

October 23, 2009 at 10:39 PMpenangcool


if you drive kereta lembu then i believe you have to take 1~1.5 hour to travel from Balik Pulau to Bayan Lepas.

Yes, if you rich enough then just pick one in Southbay, just like what Eugene says.
Nobody can force you to stay in Balik Pulau if you don't like, no affected at all!!

But if you have time (please la don't drive your kereta lembu) no harm to take a round to Balik Pulau and try ask what is the property price now. I can simply tell that if you bought the DST house 2 years ago, now your property has appreciate for at least 40%.....So what is this sign represent?

October 24, 2009 at 12:04 AMyinpeiwei

Penangcool , stay cool please ,
Don't be too sensitive , I know you invest an unit there . Let those interested try and judge themself . Try at 7 am , drive from PR to bayan lepas , use jalan teluk kumbar , you will know whether i m driving kereta lembu or not.
Please don't believe an investor and me , try and judge yourself.

eugene tcb , I understood your situation , from your responde , I m sure you r buying for own stay , hope the jalan teluk kumbar will complete on time.

By the way , from what i know from new paper , announce by Lim Guan Eng , the project delay to complete 2011, not so bad .
But I heard this project is from balik pulau to Pekan Genting only , anybody know where is Pekan Genting ?
My purpose is just to gain some information before decide , no offence , only those so call investor will over react toward my opinion.

October 25, 2009 at 4:20 PMeugene_tcb

To yinpeiwei,

Actually is not me own the house but is my relative.I juz help them to collect the information n market response.I still not able to buy such nice sad :(

But i think that all the owner of palmyra residences make the right choice because all of u buy so nice designed n potential property.Hope that everyone here can update the progress of project.Thanks.

November 4, 2009 at 8:21 PMLim

Actually how is the progress? sold out?

November 7, 2009 at 7:49 PMLim

I heard from banker, the price can appreciate at least minimum from RM500,000 to RM600,000 after 2 years. Thanks.

November 10, 2009 at 7:27 PMSun

Dear Palmyra Buyer,

Now the developer start piling to 2nd phase, in 2 to 3month they'll start do water piping so my opinion is can we ask developer don't install instant water heater point(c/w:- 2 nos only) for us and replaced it to electric Storage Water Heater point to cover 3 bathroom can save money and nice.

November 20, 2009 at 6:29 PMconcern

Mostly buyer from Palmyra are investor so they don't care about renovation after completion for sure they'll sell it, now for Palmyra investor they got issue to sell it after getting O.C because now investor turning to the newly launched Taman Nyaman Indah - Phase 2, 3 storey Terrace House at Jalan Pondok Upih, 20x70 price around rm498 above, Palmyra just 20x64 rm428, bed room smaller, design of the bedroom also problem need to spend money on renovation.

November 23, 2009 at 9:46 AMlee

Yes, i agree with you because taman nyaman indah's saleability after completion will be much better than Palmyra.

December 2, 2009 at 1:08 AMShinies

Hi concern and lee,

i agree completely with you. nyaman indah is 3 storey leh !!!

only thing is developer is chapalang. else would be a good buy.

too bad i bought palmyra liao. else i sure buy nyaman indah (although it is a flood prone area but i think in the future will be less flood due to better drainage)

December 3, 2009 at 6:43 PMconcern

Hi Shinies,

About "chapalang" developer who cares because they can build, give quality material and most important is the layout, if compare with well known developer. Don't assume these well known developer can give the best, please check The Spring quality.

They are new comer so don't underestimate them, give people a chance. Who know 1 day maybe better than well known developer.

December 4, 2009 at 10:32 AMlee

Hi concern,

I agree with u because based on the quality of the house that they are providing, they are superior. However, they are not promoting their product so extensively as they have only 42 units for sales. I think all the units will be taken up within 6 weeks time. The porject will be a good buy as selling price is far below the market value for the same product within the island.

December 9, 2009 at 9:47 PMSun

International school to create buzz in Balik Pulau

THE sleepy hollow of Balik Pulau on Penang island is set to buzz with the construction of an international school soon.

Penang-based property developer MTT Properties and Development Sdn Bhd, which is developing the 120ha "Botanica. CT" township in the south-west district of the island, has begun earthworks for a full boarding international school that will be sited within the development.

The establishment of the school in the township is expected to enhance demand and value of properties within the development.

The school will offer the British curriculum system for students of Year 7 onwards and will be able to house 800 students," MTT Properties and Development group general manager Jason Tan told Business Times.

The first enrollment for the school - which is expected to incur development and set-up costs of close to RM100 million and sprawled over 2.8ha of land - is planned for September 2011, Tan added.

Botanica. CT is undertaken by MTT Properties and Development, which is a subsidiary of MTT & Priority Group of Companies and has a history which dates back to 1963.

"Apart from full boarding facilities, the school will have a state-of-the-art library, science laboratories, workshops, a multi-purpose hall, concert auditorium, tennis and netball courts, swimming pools and a football field.

"About 40.6 per cent on which the school land is sited has been earmarked to be left as open or green areas," Tan said.

Penang is currently home to several international schools including the International School of Penang (commonly known as Uplands School), St Christopher's International Primary School, Fairview International School, Tenby International School and Dalat International School, which are all located in the north-east district of Penang.

Tan said MTT Properties and Development is hoping to launch the third and fourth phases of its CT.Botanica development next year.

"Phase 3, which carries a development value of around RM65 million, will feature 103 residential homes, with two- and three-storey super-link homes and two-storey semi-detached home. These will be completed in 2012," he said.

Phase 4, which is slated for completion in 2012, will comprise 29 tropical hillside three-storey villas, with seven exclusive designs and boasting their own pools.

The project's first phase was launched in 2006 and the majority of its buyers are locals, with approximately 10 per cent of them comprising foreigners from the UK and South Korea.

"While Phase 3 is likely to be owned by local homeowners, the fourth phase may probably have more foreign investors and we hope the setting up of the international school will help us attract even more foreign buyers," Tan said.

The company plans to market its Tropical Hillside Villas in Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong, China, Japan, South Korea and Indonesia.

"London is also a focus for us, due to the existing familiarity with Penang and the potential links which may be created due to the international school," he added.

December 14, 2009 at 5:12 PMFoo

hi everyone. i have been living in Botanica Semi D and so far the distance is quite ok for me. 15 minutes to reach relau and 30 minutes to reach town in Macallum street where i work. an advice to everyone who thinks that balik pulau is far..... dun. 20 years ago people thought island glades, greenlane, yeap chor ee was mountain side and no body wants to live there. look at it right now. it's a town by it's own and properties there are like touching a million for link houses that is 20 years old. i know coz i got 1 in lintang delima. i got a feeling in 5 years time, balik pulau is the next in thing. maybe better. who knows. penang is penang. what is there to worry about?

December 14, 2009 at 6:15 PMSun

Hi Foo,

Which road you using?

December 15, 2009 at 6:03 PMFoo

Hi Sun,

I am using the relau - balik pulau road. if you use the batu maung - teluk kumbar road, you gonna be heavy on traffic especially the ones in teluk kumbar to batu maung. My wife works in Krystal Point and she uses the balik pulau - relau road. she works at 8:30am. She leaves home at 7:45am and reaches there at 8:15am. got 15 minutes for coffee. :D
Actually there is no reason to worry about waking up extra 30 minutes early when you dun pay double the price of a semi d or any properties and you get alot bigger land. 500k for a new semi d with 3k square ft?? that worth 1.4m in green lane. ;)

December 15, 2009 at 10:07 PMSun

Hi Foo,

Thanks for your info.

December 15, 2009 at 11:04 PMFoo

You are most welcome Sun.

The only thing I am wishing now is that they dun start building high rise condos in Balik Pulau. I am loving the morning, afternoon and night skies here. plus fresh air.

I heard that they are putting a max of 5 stories apartment here in BP.

December 16, 2009 at 12:28 PMSun

Hi Foo,

Now you looks like very happy staying in Balik Pulau, before that where you from (town or balik pulau)? 2nd your monthly car maintenance and petrol expenses, everydays using hill road will jeopardize your vehicle?

Once again thanks for your info.

December 16, 2009 at 1:08 PMFoo

Hi Sun,

I have been staying in gtown for 20 years and 10 years in green lane and trust me i was quite reluctant to move so far away from where i used to live. Balik Pulau was my second choice as I always love landed properties. The only affordable landed is either across the penang bridge or at the other side of the mountain. Since green lane, batu maung and bayan lepas area are very expensive (new house) nowadays, I am willing to try BP. Yeap.. and I am loving it.
As for petrol, of coz there will be difference but it's not that substantial. i am driving a wira and rm60 takes me 400km. now rm60 takes me 370km. Which means rm0.15 per km and it'll be rm4.5 that i have to loose. well... at least better to loose rm7 everyday to travel back and forth on the mainland. And as for the car maintenance... it actually depends by the way we drive and that i have no clue.
Anyways... this eventually up to each individual property owner. I want to get a new landed property with less than 600K and a freehold title with bigger space... i choose BP. if i got a million to spend... then town is not an issue. By the way... you are currently living where?

December 16, 2009 at 7:03 PMSun

Hi Foo,

Now staying in Georgetown, plan move to B.Pulau but quite far, currently work in FTZ. Agree with you landed property in Gtown very expensive unless rich people can buy it.

Who going to buy condo/apart in B.Pulau, better stay in Gtown no much different except landed property.

December 17, 2009 at 2:27 PMFoo

Hi Sun,

If u are working in FTZ then it's not that far from BPulau. Just use the road that i mentioned and then you got 2 choice to choose when you reach relau. Either you turn left and go to EQ or go straight to relau and come out from sungai dua. 35 minutes max. I have been timing myself everyday and it's max 35 minutes.
Investing in BPulau is a long term and mostly if a person really wants to stay there for good. If anyone looking to buy it and rent out then i will ask them to think twice.

January 4, 2010 at 9:20 AMchrysler

Hi Foo,

Just wondering if you will consider using the new highway which is expected to complete in 2010/2011...One of the reasons I don't really like to go up to BP is coz I drive a small automatic car which doesn't have much "energy" to climb the steep slope if I use the route coming from Paya Terubong (I believe that is the route you mentioned you use everyday). I sometimes drive up to BP on weekends and usually if there is a slow car in front of me at the steep part, I have trouble overtaking it.

Previously, you mentioned that the other route (Teluk Kumbar) will take longer coz of the traffic jam in the morning. Estimated around how long and around what time? (As I work at FTZ area and start work at 8am).

Anyway, I am still considering this project but just undecided for now.


January 4, 2010 at 9:42 PMFoo

Hi Crysler,

If the new Teluk Kumbar highway is complete then i may consider but the main area you have to be wary is not the teluk kumbar highway... it's the batu maung road heading to airport. that road is a bottle neck. It took me nearly 30min just to cross that area on the way to The Sun office. Rough estimation 45min from BP to FTZ.
I agree with you that the Paya Terubong way is steep but I am getting used to drive easily already. Maybe patience start to kick in. hehehe.. i am driving a iswara 1.3. So far ok for cruising 60kmph without rushing.. 30min to FTZ. if no slow moving car... 20min also can.

January 4, 2010 at 10:28 PMconcern

Hey Foo,

I thought you drive wira please refer to above comment, he2 -> December 16, 2009 1:08 PM

January 6, 2010 at 8:45 AMFoo

my wife's car... wira
my car.. iswara.

sorry for confusion. ;)

January 8, 2010 at 9:25 AMpei fen

Hi All,
It is great to see you all chatting about BP. I also plan to move to BP even though i know the road is steep and sometimes traffic jam. The road from BP to Relau (pass by Alpine/Lakeside condo)nowadays more jam during morning and evening hour. Hopefully they can make the road broader espeicially there is a bottleneck after Inti. (Two lane become one lane and many people don't queu).
I wish to move to landed house after i have some bad experience stayed in Condo such car park problem, water leaking (the upstair owner refuse to repair), space constaint for kids, maintance fees etc. BP is good for living, but not shopping, it still need to take 10 to 15 years to grow and develop.

January 19, 2010 at 5:34 PMWang

hi foo, glad to see someone from botanica around here, maybe can meet up one day
anyway, BP is still fine if you work in the FTZ area
what i like about BP is everyday after work, it feels like i'm going back to a place where it is more relaxing and the pace is less hectic
unlike the times when i stay at bayan lepas area where i feel like i'm trapped in a city both at work and off work
now when going home and back home, i'm greeted with greenery and also a sense of peace

January 31, 2010 at 11:46 PMFoo

Hi Wang... hope to bump into you somewhere near the garden coz my place is somewhere there. Have you been to the ground breaking ceremony last 2 Saturday? I saw the phase 3 and the houses (2 storey link, 3 storey link and semiD) is huge but sad thing is it's gonna be leasehold coz previously the land was bought over by the gov to build school. MTT is applying for freehold but the cost will go up after that. right now the price is double of phase 1. i am supprise in this huge jump.

to everyone... BP houses are shooting up. I went to Pinang Village today and the price went up 20k extra already and will go up another 10K after CNY.

February 3, 2010 at 6:19 PMWang

development in balik pulau is indeed gaining steam with 2nd phase of Swiss Symphony coming up and the one at Titi Teras near the playground

back then during the 1st phase of botanica, no one bothered to bat an eyelid on Balik Pulau, hence the comparatively low price
now with interest coming and bayan lepas area marching relentlessly towards the million ringgit mark for a terrace, the prices in balik pulau too increase in tandem

February 3, 2010 at 11:21 PMJames

how is the current selling price for palmyra? any new promotion going on? i am looking for a affordable landed property in penang.

February 19, 2010 at 4:19 AMTyler

Hi Palmyra owner, how much did u guys pay for the MOT?

March 6, 2010 at 9:17 AMconcern

Now the Palmayra owner and developer having problem on price appreciation as these 2 new housing estate coming up, Taman Nyaman Indah (Phase 2)and Sunway Aspera 2 Story Terrace House with better design and specifications. Including free alarm system.

Wait and see how, as claim by this Belleview group "Forecast of 30% capital appreciation upon completion by this developer.

Good luck.

March 6, 2010 at 10:08 AMlee

Hi! Concern, Where is Sunway Aspera anyway?

March 6, 2010 at 10:15 AMconcern

Hi Lee,

Try this website as below, see the different and get your dream house.

March 6, 2010 at 10:36 AMlee

Hi, Concern, Thx

March 6, 2010 at 10:59 AMlee

Hi, Concern, Double Storey Terrace House at Sungai Batu approaching RM525k. What do you estimate the landed properties future market price at balik pulau which is 15 minutes drive from here.

March 6, 2010 at 11:10 AMconcern

For Balik Pulau still the long way to go need to take 10 to 15 years to grow, don't forget Gertak Sanggul and area near Puspakom still got huge land except Gov. of Penang develop Balik Pulau or Tesco or others hypermarket coming up overthere. And pray for Ikea coming up in Balik Pulau. Than you'll see something.

March 6, 2010 at 1:01 PMlee

Don't you notice that during the recent launching, the double storey terrace house's price is already approaching RM458,000/-. And 2 & half storey Bungalow is about RM1.08 million. Then, how about another 10 years?

April 7, 2010 at 1:00 PMPenny

So happy to see all your views and comments here. I have a unit of double storey terrace in Palmyra phase 1, I bought it during the launching. Can't wait to get the key and will pray hard for Tesco and Ikea to come over.

April 9, 2010 at 9:08 PMFennie

Is anyone know when this project will be completed? I have long time never visit it.

April 9, 2010 at 11:38 PMMr.Business

I think next month is durian season. You may go to Balik Pulau to eat durian and visit the site at the same time.

April 25, 2010 at 5:08 PMgally_lot

I heard from the sales person on 24 Apr. He said estimated completion is 2011 Sep.

May 20, 2010 at 6:54 PMconcern

Balik Pulau to become an education hub
Written by Bernama
Wednesday, 19 May 2010 21:53

BUKIT MERTAJAM: The Penang state government has identified a 200-acre site in Balik Pulau, to be turned into a hub for excellence in education, by inviting higher learning institutions to set up their campus there.

Penang Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng said land acquisition, which was expected to cost about RM100 million, was in progress.

"We are discussing the prospect with investors and work is expected to start in a year or two," he told reporters after handing out contributions to religious schools in the state at Permatang Nibong here on Wednesday, May 19.

Lim said the state government had discussed the setting up of higher learning institutions at the hub with two renowned international higher learning institutions.

"I hope world-renowned Islamic universities like Al-Azhar University can set up their campus here," said Lim who handed out grants totalling RM1.75 million to 21 religious schools and Maahad Tahfiz in the state. — Bernama

July 30, 2010 at 6:39 PMSun

Good news for Palmyra Residence buyer the price had increase to RM431,900.00(20 x 62) and RM439,900.00 (20 x 64) just 10mth only.

August 22, 2010 at 7:59 PMpenang

Good for retirement home.

November 19, 2010 at 1:23 PMconcern

Hi Jenny,

Are you sure going to sell at this price with this price people better buy 3 story house at sg.ara and other place.

November 20, 2010 at 12:22 AMJenny

Dear "Concern",

Thanks for your comment.

My post is for those interested and afford to pay this price.

Please be rest assure i am not in hurry or pushing either to sell.

Have a good weekend!


November 20, 2010 at 12:08 PMconcern

For those interested can check with the developer, the latest pricing until to day start from RM480,900 onwards and free many things like Mot, S n P and etc.

November 22, 2010 at 12:35 PMJJ

New Project at Jalan Chai (Taman Titi Heights) which near to Balik Pulau town.

2-sty terrace/link house = rm438K
2.5-sty terrace/link house = rm528K

Freehold guarded community surrounded by countryside living and close to Balik Pulau public amenities.

March 17, 2011 at 7:18 PMchteoh1980

Hi guys, heard dere are some good units just released by the developer recently. Those interested, you may contact the developer fast!!!

March 17, 2011 at 10:31 PMconcern

How much the current price ?

May 31, 2011 at 2:05 PMLoh

I call Sales Office (04-828 6999) last week.

Latest pricing is from RM545,900 onwards, still few units left.

July 28, 2011 at 8:16 PMAnonymous

when the time i ask for the title transfer, the lawyer firm and banker told me can be settle or done after 10years, but lawyer firm called me yesterday to chase for the title transfer stamp duty to pay within 30days.(my situation is just signed all the agreement and bank stil haven't release any amount to developer yet)
is anyone here can help to advise? what is the correct action?

August 12, 2011 at 11:41 PMconcern

Hi Guys,

Updates both side

September 15, 2011 at 2:00 PMObserver

There are also many other units for sales in

November 6, 2011 at 10:59 PMpalymyra buyer

To all the buyers,

Better have a looks on your property how the quality looks like, just received the O.C now start showing damage to the house spotted on the walls paints start peeling off in the house.

How their developer doing their work almost all unit leaking at balcony saw their workers painting & painting on balcony after raining and wall cracking by painting only how they going to solve this problem?

Their workmanship very bad and slow respond "tak kisah attitude", how are we going
to received a lousy quality.

Don’t know whether their Managing Director Datuk Sxxxx Hx aware about this, how his workers & developer doing job. Better think twice next time on other project.

November 12, 2011 at 5:10 PMconcern

OMG all leaking, very bad their workmanship no quality at all.

November 19, 2011 at 11:44 AMBuyer

yes better think twice before anyone buys Belleview's projects. or better still, don't think at all. just stay away from their projects.
we still haven't taken our key as we are waiting for the developer to do up our unit. they have taken a long.....time. The site sup. has left. now a new one has taken over. I wonder how many supervisors it'll take before we get our key.

December 6, 2011 at 4:25 PMKY

You have the right to ask developer to re-work for the defect, if developer fail, let your lawyer know that such issue,as lawyer still hold 2.5% of total payment. But very sad Lawyer appointed by developer, think twice can lawyer help me??? if lawyer can't help, seek for Bar Council help.Again, such case will end-up buyer repair by itself.

January 11, 2012 at 11:51 PMconcern

If your lawyer can't help then go to Cap(Consumers association of Penang), if still can't help complaint to tv3 station(aduan rakyat) let the whole world know how this lawyer & developer doing their job. For sure people stay away buying their property.

February 3, 2012 at 4:41 PMPrettyPerfect

Out of topic..
guys,whats your opinion abt titi heights?i am from KL but moving to penang in may permanently.looking for a house to buy n live.either palmyra or titi heights.pls advice me on the road access,surroundings,schools basic amenities etc etc...thnx n appreciate your comments.

March 8, 2012 at 3:38 PMPrettyPerfect

I need help, looking for a landed propery in balik pulau...developer's price is RM545K and subsale going for as low as this project not doing well or it is an indication of property bubble?

March 8, 2012 at 10:15 PMlim

Have you call up the agent and ask for the availability? try to visit the house and observe yourself. Sometimes it's hard to say.

March 24, 2012 at 2:59 PMPrettyPerfect

Hi Lim! i have seen the looks nice..but there is 20 units with the developer since Jan 2012..a bit confused...I'm really looking for house to stay, as my family will be moving in to penang soon due to job relocation...

March 27, 2012 at 10:13 PMlim

hi PrettyPerfect, my suggestion to you is rent a unit first, to see if you really like or suitable to stay there, before you really buy a unit.

April 22, 2012 at 10:44 AMWei Wei

Look like a lot Palmyra Owner wouldl like release unit by ASAP! I had visited the site, less than 10% move in................

April 22, 2012 at 10:45 AMWei Wei

The agent offered me @ RM 460K still can negotiable.

April 25, 2012 at 6:10 PMPrettyPerfect

Wei Wei, last week we were crusing to look for property at Balik Pulau.We were shoc to see only few has occupied and lives in Palmyra- about 10%, the rest of the house unoccupied. Alot of banners for Sale!! So we decided not to buy...some of the kampung boys were occupying the places...scary...

April 28, 2012 at 7:38 PMPrettyPerfect

I agree with you Wei Wei...

April 30, 2012 at 5:54 PMpalymyra buyer

"You ban ban tan" , recently PLB Homes launching new project Prestige III for phase 1 all good unit sold out and very far from main road take 20min drive from Palmyra to this area.

May 1, 2012 at 12:31 AMWei Wei

Palmmyra Buyer, you are making big lost. If u release your unit RM 400K, you even cannot cover your interest. The agent called me again, the seller would like to cover legal stamp duty and fees and the best can offer me @ RM 430K. I believed a lot investor would like to release unit by asap no demand and too rural. We can wait and see as economic not so good!

May 2, 2012 at 2:08 PMtwyeow88

i know it's unfair for those from balik pulau, but somehow it takes years or even decades for mindset to change to be able to accept a new environment because of distance, friends, surrounding, development. it took my grandfather nearly 20 yrs to accept Island Glades/Park as home (most people stay in georgetown in 1970) when my parents moved from georgetown more than 40 yrs ago to find a cheaper alternative. similarly, it took me nearly 10 yrs to accept mainland as an alternative place to live.

May 2, 2012 at 3:24 PMcondomana

It's not mindset, it's a real pain in the ass staying in balik pulau if you work in town. Mainland is 100 times better than balik pulau as you have cinemas, jusco, hospitals, plenty of good hawker food, starbucks, coffee bean, karaokes, massage parlours, and good schools. Things will definitely get much better with the second link as chances of big traffic jams would be minimal...:)...So, why Balik Pulau? Surely doesn't make sense.

May 2, 2012 at 5:16 PMtwyeow88

condomana, i do agree to some extent especially distance (not only distance to work but also distance from friends, families) but not everything which is why i called it "mindset". though most people always claimed there is no cinemas, starbucks, malls, karaoke, pubs, good food but generally most of them just stay home all the time regardless where they live. but i think in times to come, balik pulau will have everything.

May 2, 2012 at 11:44 PMWei Wei

Just imaging situation as below (assume):
1. You are working in G'Town and Prai.

2. Your children need go to attention tution or colleges in G'Town.

3. During heavy rain need to drive away from Balik Pulau or Kumbar.

Island Glage/ Park are totally different to Balik Pulau. If so, I more prefer stay in Butterworth like Bagan, Chai Leng Park, Seberang Jaya, Bukit Minyak etc.

May 3, 2012 at 1:59 PMChinkokMeng

Just imagine situation like below (assume):
1. You work in Factory Area, Bayan Lepas
2. Every day has to worry about traffic jam at Penang Bridge During morning and evening, worse during Friday, raining
And accident. Even due to too many traffic lights , places like Bukit Mertajam/Butterworth is toxic with traffic.

3. Resale value of the property. Main land property,
new projects a plenty but no resale value
4. Stay next to Bangla/Vietnamese 20 persons in 1 house
(Juru heights)

I would rather buy a house in Balik Pulau. Because, it is Penang, I shall repeat, Penang. Not main land. We have greens and potential of appreciation

May 3, 2012 at 2:07 PMChinkokMeng

Main land property, can buy any time. No hurry. Go to Mudah or any listing, you can see the price. The best place they said is near Juru auto city, but take a look there during weekends, all Bangla stay there from nearby factories. Traffic jam really... Hai, my friend gave up after collecting key, not bother to move in. Try to sell, no buyer.

In island , the price is increasing and always increase as usual. Last time, no body looks at Teluk Kumbar or Balik Pulau, now, it is getting more and more expensive.

May 3, 2012 at 6:00 PMcondomana

Hi ChinkokMeng,

Just to side track a little bit, did you know why your dad gave you that middle name "kok"? Because he was a visionary who knew you like to talk c*ck...:D))...sorry..sorry..just couldn't help it.

Ok. Back to main track. "The best place they said is near Juru auto city", who is "they"? Your friends? Juru Heights salesmen? Speculators who bought Juru Heights?Or the Bangla next door?..You go ask someone who grew up in Butterworth, he will tell you that's the worst of Butterworth.

"Try to sell, no buyer"..I think same thing will happen to Balik Pulau..:)

May 3, 2012 at 8:00 PMChinkokMeng

Hi Condomana,
Just to side track a little bit, judging from your understand of Chinese words and probably attitude, it is reasonable to believe that you are another PISANG. You are not even qualify as Banana because no more English educated now in our country. You are malay educated. So, neither here nor there people said with great pity. Speak/ write no chinese , at the same time, speak no queen s English. Afraid to enter old Chinese restaurant with menu in Chinese.
Sorry, sorry. Me too, could not help either. Please forgive me, just as I take no offence of what you said.

Ok, interesting part, the main track now, so to speak:
Balik Pulau nothing to shout about, true. The fact remains that it another coming Green lane or island glades in the making. Full of potential. Can that be said of Mainland? Main land is saturated. Over developed with many housing development . Traffic jams.

May 4, 2012 at 12:09 AMRoman

Condomana, pls show your respect to others while posting your comments here.

May 4, 2012 at 3:43 AMpgkia88

Chinese educated people are mostly ignorant

May 4, 2012 at 10:36 AMtwyeow88

that's because they choose to, in order to stay focus on what they think is important and within their control eg. $$$$.

May 4, 2012 at 11:02 AMFREETHINKER

Let’s not deviated from the property topic in argument on personal education background.

Both BP & Mainland has its pros and cons. Frankly it is kind of the option for those with limited budget or those looking for affordable investments.
Look at the data and statistics….u shall get some pictures of it which can do better.
“Future” can be 5, 10 or even 15 years down the road….if u can afford to sustain financially and endure the trouble of travelling, then can go for BP & Mainland.
Tips….there are still some good value properties in southern part of Penang that which have very good potential for own stay or even investment.

May 4, 2012 at 11:52 AMpgkia88

twyeoh88 and his ang mo ball polishing theory again.

Ps: so do you finally understand the content of hollywood movie now? Or you still have to rely on dubbing?

May 4, 2012 at 12:43 PMtwyeow88

i didn't realise my theory is so powerful that you remember me. perhaps i should run courses on this subject, sharing also other ball polishing, as part of survival skills living outside the country. btw, pick up some chinese coz i m not sure everyone understand you in the land of 1.4b people.

May 4, 2012 at 4:22 PMpgkia88

Twyeoh88, so why are you still here in Malaysia? Why not move back to China? Also, when you move back to China, do you still polish angmo's ball or...? What about Jap prick? Will you carry them as well, like some traitor in Bruce Lee movie?

May 4, 2012 at 4:55 PMcondomana

Hi Guys!

Having fun wacking each other?..:)))..I guess that's the beauty about all this, you get to say things that you normally not allowed to say in real world because of social constraints. God bless the internet!..:)

May 4, 2012 at 5:02 PMtwyeow88

i can even polish yours if you can afford to pay. or i pay you to polish mine. sounds dirty ah! but that's the way of life to move forward.

May 4, 2012 at 5:16 PMtwyeow88


not wacked lah! just sharing philosophy of life and survival skills especially out of the country. really, $$$$ is the only friend when you are out there. ignorant or not, life has to move on. "polishing" is just a skill set to keep pace or stay ahead of others, to ensure $$$$ continues to flow.

May 4, 2012 at 11:20 PMpgkia88

twyeoh88, i wont stoop so low as you. I can see that you are the sort of Chinese describe in the Interlok

May 5, 2012 at 12:16 AMtwyeow88

pgkia88, you read too much and think too much already. i understand your feeling being suppressed, and trying to let go. take it easy. life is as simple as 1 2 3 if you are ignorant.

November 18, 2012 at 10:17 PMPANITIA BAHASA INGGERIS SKMP

i heard someone's selling for rm460k if it is that true, pls tell me, i hv a few friends looking for houses in Palmyra, with that price, chap tou sei!!!!! cause another friend juz bought a new unit from belleview for rm546k ???????

November 19, 2012 at 9:58 PMyouthgen

Balik Pulau house too far from town who's going to stay there, 2nd things people over there the worst in Malaysia don't want to develop their area if compare to sg.petani, kulim, alma, simpang empat and etc. That's why the house there no value. Balik Pulau chinese all moving out to town left malay. No future overthere. In malay call "tempat paling mundur di Malaysia".

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I have some units for sale and rent. Pls call or watsapp Anthony from Popular Realty. 0124333370 or 0124338798. U can also email to TQ
Will try my best to negotiate for u. TQ and have a nice day.