Vista Gambier


Vista Gambier a resort-style condominium located in Bukit Gambier, Penang. Set amidst lush greenery with a breathtaking sea view, the project is a low density 22-storey condominium block comprising 144 units of spacious living for the whole family.

Every floor has only eight units with gross floor area of 1,343 sq feet. The living spaces occupy 18 storeys of the building while the first three floors are for the podium car parks and the fourth floor houses the swimming pool.

All the units accord residents a beautiful view of the sea and the Penang Bridge. One can catch the sunrise from the privacy and comfort of the balconies.

Vista Gambier’s location is very centralised as it is near both George Town and the Penang International Airport. The Penang Bridge is also easily accessible, making the project a viable choice for those working on the mainland.

Supported by a good traffic dispersal network (Jelutong Expresway and the Coastal Expressway), the project is also conveniently situated near University Sains Malaysia, and shopping complexes such as Tesco.

Property Project : Vista Gambier
Location : Bukit Gambier, Penang
Property Type : Condominium
Tenure : Freehold
No. of Blocks : 1
No. of Storeys : 22
Total Units : 144
Units per Floor : 8
Built-up Area : approx. 1,343 sq.ft.
Developer : Lereng Wira Sdn Bhd

Facilities
24-hours security, swimming pool, landscape garden, CCTV, gymnasium, children's playground, podium car park, broadband ready, BBQ area, multi-purpose hall, intercom.

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March 16, 2010 at 1:01 PMUnknown

tan, of course i know. When i bought it, they said "drawn".
When is your 1st time ask about the allocation?
Because this is in gray zone, developer is try to play on it. That why different people have different answer.
Furthermore, that is the trust bond on it when customer deal with developer. If developer unable fulfill the request as what they promise, the consequence is the developer reputation get influence.

 
March 16, 2010 at 1:21 PMSLG

Daren,
The developer is use to dont keep their promise. If you read all of the comment from oldest to newest then you will know what happen. So for property buyer better ask the developer to list down what they have promised in the s & p instead of just use their mouth!

 
March 16, 2010 at 2:01 PMUnknown

The car parks for the corner units owners will be allocate near lift. Owners 1 to 6 floor - level 3, 7 to 12 floor - level 2 and 13 to 18 - level 1. Just confirm with the developer.

 
March 19, 2010 at 5:31 PMpatwong

Last weekend I went to have a look at the carpark... very funny.... motorcycles parking everywhere.... abit here and there... This is not a condominium standard....and 1 more thing wore weird... the water meter pump. 4 units in a small room.. I wonder if there is owner going to install diamond water filter? If yes..., Oh no!!! It won't fit into that small room!!! Owners please go and have a look!!!

 
March 19, 2010 at 5:49 PMpatwong

Cafe,
Are you 1 of the owner???I agreed with you... We should ask an explanation from the developer about the carpark allocation!!!The carparks seems small... don't know whether it's up to the council's standard !!! Very disappointed at the developer... always break their promises!!!

 
March 20, 2010 at 5:53 AMUnknown

patwong,
Yes, I am one of the early buyer, my unit is at low floor, so, if what qqq said is correct, I will get 3rd floor parking lots. And I have to agree with you also, developer always break their promises ... 1st, 2nd, 3rd. To me, they have no more business integrity.

However, one thing that make me happy is that I made a right investment by buying it at early stage by taking the risk ... :)

Tan,
Thanks for your interest on my unit but I am getting it for long term investment purpose, I will only sell it after 3-5 years from now when the world economy fully recover !!!

 
March 20, 2010 at 10:02 AMSLG

One more question, why the developer allocated BBQ area and children's playground together with the swimming pool? Why not they allocate these 2 at another side top of the carpark area? It's because of they want to save cost? Did they concern and consider the safety of the children???

 
March 29, 2010 at 6:08 PMpatwong

Cafe,
Do you know when they will allocated the carpark???? Now already end of March.....so when can VG obtain OC????

 
March 30, 2010 at 2:10 AMUnknown

patwong,
I have no idea ... maybe the owners that waiting for the OC to move in should check with the developer on this ...

 
March 31, 2010 at 8:46 PMSLG

The OC has been obtained already? I just received a letter from developer, asking about the rest of the payment.

 
April 1, 2010 at 7:38 AM蓝调精灵

Jaren,
What did they stated in the letter? Can you share with us? Thanks.

 
April 1, 2010 at 10:49 AMUnknown

Anybody knows if there will be "GANGSTER CONTRACTOR" for the renovation???

Bear in mind, this "blood sucking" culture on new apartment renovation only exist in PG, with the new CAT government, we should expect this damn culture to be eliminated with the help from "Kuan Yin"

 
April 1, 2010 at 2:17 PMandy

Actually we have right to deny those 'gangster contractor' for the renovation. We can report to police or ask help from the assembly man if the 'gangster contractor' disturb or do anything bad at our unit. But the term is all of the owners should be unite.

 
April 2, 2010 at 9:23 AMUnknown

Got post said that the OC will get on 5th April ... Is that true?

 
April 2, 2010 at 10:45 AMUnknown

Heard that gangster and developer are same side.

Interested to form own committees to take over?

 
April 2, 2010 at 11:34 AM蓝调精灵

How many owner have received letter from developer? And, what is content of letter?
I heard a few units are doing renovation, perhaps since 1 month ago. How true is that? Can owner do renovation before obtain VP? As no news saying VP is obtained. Any idea?

Daren,
Where is the post?

 
April 3, 2010 at 11:21 AMUnknown

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3090299&id=268804699674#!/photo.php?pid=3481146&id=268804699674

 
April 6, 2010 at 9:29 AMUnknown

So, is the OC already obtained?

NonGangtersFan, what do you mean by take over? what to take over?

Per my experience, I am pretty sure there will be Gangster Contractor for this project ... sorry to say that this is already a "culture" in Penang ):

I dun think the new Government can make a different lor ...

 
April 8, 2010 at 12:28 AMUnknown

Is true that OC will obtain soon. Received a lawyer letter regarding payment up to stage 3 (12.5%) and the Stakeholder monies (5%).

 
April 8, 2010 at 10:07 AMUnknown

of course the OC will be obtain. But when it will obtain still don know yet ..... Developer hope to get it before 15th April .... Developer will contact owner when OC obtain and owners should cheers for it ....
How much similarity of real condo and broucher? 60? 80? 100?

 
April 8, 2010 at 2:10 PMSLG

Hi all,
Does any owners know that why they didnt follow the payment schedule in the S&P, they skip the 2.5% and directly go to last payment 5% (Stakeholder monies)? I thought the last 2 payment (2.5% & 5%), only have to settle after OC obtained.

 
April 10, 2010 at 2:29 AMUnknown

Yes, in fact, we shouldn't pay stage 3 & 5 before we received the vacant possession letter from developer. I am checking with my home loan bank on this issue !!!

 
April 10, 2010 at 2:29 AMUnknown

Yes, in fact, we shouldn't pay stage 3 & 5 before we received the vacant possession letter from developer. I am checking with my home loan bank on this issue !!!

 
April 14, 2010 at 4:20 PMUnknown

Sudah dapat OC baru cakap!

 
April 19, 2010 at 12:44 PMIvy

I called LW, they said this month end can O.C.Obtain.

 
April 19, 2010 at 2:18 PMUnknown

It should be...They have delayed for too long...
Can start thinking how to renovate the house...

 
April 19, 2010 at 11:14 PMyoyo

Dear owner, i am serious buyer looking for a intermediate unit middle floor, if u want to let go your unit pls drop your contact no. here. tq

 
April 23, 2010 at 4:11 PMUnknown

According to developer, i think need to wait another 1 month ... Still waiting for the OC documentation and other process .....
Ready your money if you want to take the key .... sinking fund, 7 months maintenance fee & miscellaneous fee ....

 
May 7, 2010 at 10:58 AMUnknown

seem like quite sometime no one update due to OC not yet obtain. Our building block is 88. So, the address will have 88-XX-2 .... Good number ....

 
May 7, 2010 at 2:37 PMSLG

How long they are applying the OC already? Have to use 1 year or 2 years for applying OC?

 
May 7, 2010 at 4:28 PMUnknown

According to developer, OC already taken and they are waiting for the documentation. Owner actually can have VP from developer but they don't want to give upon some reason. Mostly this or next month can get the key from developer. If want to get the key, please standby around RM3K++ for certain fee.

 
May 10, 2010 at 7:09 PM蓝调精灵

Daren,
Are you sure our government approve OC verbally? How does developer know OC is obtained without documentation?

 
May 11, 2010 at 8:31 PMUnknown

understand from the developer that OC will be obtained on 15th May 2010 ..... reliable ???
to be seen !

 
May 12, 2010 at 8:53 AMUnknown

Let see but i doubt it will be true.
Look at the history, the OC date had been pushed out again and again for at least 4 times ... until I can recall what is the exact number :D

 
May 12, 2010 at 8:55 AMUnknown

ops, sorry, I mean I can't recall the exact number of push out ...

Suck develop** :p

 
May 12, 2010 at 9:29 AMJMC

Gangster is setting up their booth soon

 
May 13, 2010 at 12:15 PMUnknown

Anyone seen the picture for the bathroom?
I found one in Mudah.com.my ...

http://www.mudah.my/Vista+Gambier+Bukit+Gambir-5879945.htm

The toilet paper holder was placed too high ... doesn't make sense at all ... can we request the developer to re-do for us???

I really hope this is not part of the strategy to make more $$$ from the owner during renovation :=(

 
May 14, 2010 at 10:10 AMUnknown

Bayern, good sharing ... i think that toilet paper holder is consider only for adult .... haha ... may be can request developer to re-do gua ..... Btw, what i write is base on what i know from developer & my own opinion .... some of the question i can't answer .... you may find out from developer if you got any question ....

 
May 15, 2010 at 3:49 AMUnknown

Daren,
This is even not for an average height adult for Malaysian.

I guess they used the "ANG MO" standard i.e. average height of near to 6 feet in order to reach the toilet paper without standing ...

 
May 16, 2010 at 10:06 PMJMC

Heard SSP currently a GC at IR moving to Vista Gambir very soon..
Good luck
Visit IR.xnetcc.net for further discussion

 
May 17, 2010 at 7:25 AM蓝调精灵

Then I think SSP could have to wait for months or years for vista gambier to obtain OC.

 
May 17, 2010 at 8:21 AMUnknown

Smurfy, Joe,
What do you guys mean, I don't really get it ...
What is SSP, what is GC, IR ...
Why still need months or years for VG to get OC???
Please clarify ...

Thanks~!

 
May 17, 2010 at 8:39 PMUnknown

15th May has come n gone ..... but still no sign of the OC. Followed up with the developer n was told it'll be the end of the month ....???
well,what do you think of this bunch of people in LW ... still reliable ???

 
May 18, 2010 at 2:37 AMUnknown

As I said earlier, the committed date by developer had been pushed out again and again.

So, do you still trust their "WORD" ???

 
May 18, 2010 at 9:04 AMSLG

I never trust the developer since they didn't keep their promise to the owners and threaten the owners previously!

 
May 18, 2010 at 11:51 AMUnknown

yup, heard of that also ... d*mn developer!!!
Always lie to customers and breaking promises.

 
May 19, 2010 at 10:42 AMUnknown

look at ixora height apartment ....
the toilet paper hanger is at the back ....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jnitJsnrRX4/S108eeEq3jI/AAAAAAAAFz8/PhoRv8-iHx0/s1600-h/Ixora+Heights+%28SY%29+11.jpg

 
May 19, 2010 at 2:44 PMUnknown

To all VG owners,
VG has some technical issue to be solved before OC can be obtained.

Refer to below link for more info.

http://pasahlimajlismppp.blogspot.com/2010/05/meninjau-aduan-penduduk-berkaitan.html

 
May 19, 2010 at 3:24 PMandy

Why the developer didn't mention this to the owners??? Really want to wait until next year only can get the OC....

 
May 19, 2010 at 3:55 PMUnknown

seem like VG have a lot story behind .... after this case, another story - in house contractor will happen ....
This is suspect happen at D'Piazza ...
http://www.apartment-penang.com/2010/05/in-house-contractor-muscling-in-on.html
No idea what we can do to solve the OC issue. Give signature? meet up the MPPP , owners and VG developer?

 
May 19, 2010 at 9:54 PMUnknown

I just don't hope VG to end up like The Spring residents. They have waited for 9 months to get OC. According to MPPP, the main problem now is the exit point which they felt is too dangerous. MPPP might be right on this, but dragging OC is certainly not something that we can tolerate. Is MPPP going to take years to solve exit problem? The apartment beside VG has been there for years, but they don't have any issue on the entry and exit. So, is MPPP's reason for not issuing OC really makes sense?

I support the idea of gathering signatures and send it to MPPP. MPPP, please be fair to all VG buyers when making any decisions on OC issuance!

 
May 19, 2010 at 11:26 PMUnknown

Aiya, money problem onlylah. Why they approved the plan and A&P permit in the early stage? They can just reject it. I am sure the plan has stated the entrance and the exit. Cannot change their attitude even though government already changed. There is a traffic light before Asley Green. It is safe for the residence to go out from the exit. Why they didn't kacau the OC for I&P and Boon Siew project? During that time, it was no traffic light and the car really move very fast down the slope. Why OC still approved? One of the exco is staying in this area. Ask him whether it is safe to come out from the junction before Vista Gambir. If it is dangerous, then action should be taken to improve the safety of the existing residence. Don't use such stupid excuse to make thing difficult. Who is suffer if OC not obtain? The owner right. Not the developer nor those greedy people who just simply create problem, sit and waiting for money. Are those people really take care of the residence benefit? If they really take care, then they should not approved the plan and issue A&P permit in the first place.

 
May 20, 2010 at 7:13 AMUnknown

Yes, I agree ... sounds like a pretty non-make-sense excuse to decline the OC. If this is really the safety concern on the exit, why this project was approved at the first place and started the selling to public. Most of us are buying this with our hard-earned money!!!
So, based on the reason on why the OC rejects with my personal opinion for possible solutions ...

1. Surau issue (this is should an easy one to solve)
Option1: Request developer to build the surau ASAP
Option2: Convert part of the multipurpose hall into Surau - quciker solution

2. Safety concern on the exit
Option1: Developer/architect to work with JKR to do some improvement on the exit to make it safer such as setting up more sign board or even build a triangle or draw some big zebra line on the road at the exit point.
Option2: Convert the entrance point into bidirection, meaning to use the same entrance point as exit point and keep the existing exit gate for emergency exit only. I guess lots of condo/apartment in PG is having the same location for both entrance and exit. So, no excuse for MPPP to decline this idea.

As my opinion on how we should move on from here. I guess all the owners of VG should at least meet up with developer and architect to discuss on the possible solution slike what I suggested above + write a official letter to MPPP with all the owners signature and contact.

Bottomline, the longer we delay on this issue, the more losses to owners in term of loan interest etc.

 
May 20, 2010 at 4:23 PMUnknown

The exit from this high density apartment (144 X 2 car parks= at least 288 cars) coming out and waiting to corner into the entry if from other opposite direction is not a small matter. We are talking about a major service road's traffic being interrupted by a sudden increase of substantial number of vehicles from this apartment.

It is not only about the safety of you and your family members but also other existing user's safety and their family members.

MPPP definitely will not delay the issuance of OC without basis. To employ whatsoever tactics and exerting pressure to expedite issuance of OC while compromising the basic vital features like safe entrance/exit is not fair to the public. Actually, very much unfair to you if you care to tread carefully the consequence.

Instead, you should use this opportunity to ensure the developer deliver & comply to all regulations. After all, after OC is issued, you are alone.

 
May 20, 2010 at 4:59 PMUnknown

anyone know the developer's phone??????

 
May 20, 2010 at 11:21 PMUnknown

The reason for rejecting OC is heavily base on MPPP officer's personal view. They said ' Lebih membimbangkan apabila jalan utama untuk keluar dari kawasan perumahan ini dikatakan membahayakan bakal penghuni'. Who is those bakal penghuni? What he means by 'dikatakan'? The officers kata or bakal penghuni kata? They got the owners name & contact no? Are they communicate with the owners before they quoted this in news paper? Why they don't find out why the traffic light was installed before Asley Green 2 or 3 years ago.

They think all the owners will got out at the same time. If you give them a math questions ' Boiling 1 egg need 3 minutes, how much time you need to boil 3 eggs? I think they will give you the answer 9 minutes. Base on the calculation it is correct. But is it practical? Behind the condominium got more than 300 units household ( mutiara indah + terrace house). Base on their calculation,it should have more than 500 cars using the existing junction before Vista Gambir exit to enter into main road, and the whole road will be conjested up to the entrance of mutiara Indah. But how about the fact? I stay here about 10 years and I never see a long que to enter into the main road.

The accident is basically cause by those brainless people who want to save time and make a right turn at the junction. There is a signboard at the junction stated right turn is not allowed.

It is sad to see the officers are so powerful until they can give any reasons to reject the application without a good supporting fact.

 
May 21, 2010 at 8:53 AMSLG

Albert,
You are right, just feel that those reasons are only an excuses!

 
May 21, 2010 at 12:03 PMPE

No existing residents in that area complain to MPPP officer in black and white? How you know?
Don't think only Vista Gambier buyers are highly educated/graduate and can get signatures to petition something to your favour.

You have no idea what other people in the surrounding are doing. Do you? I believe people like you guys who are so vocal, imagine if you are the existing residents of that area and not Vista Gambier,what would you do?

Any one who pass that area, first impression is that the entrance road to the condo is a bit desperate. Pity the landed property owner along the road. Are you sure these people will keep quiet?

Some buyers of course will agree on anything just to justify the OC. Don't even care about safety of others. After all, some just want to sell the property for profit after getting OC. How about the genuine residents. How about those who are staying there for such a long time. All of sudden, they have to put up with this traffic.
You can not blame them if they protest. They have the right to protest.

 
May 21, 2010 at 12:21 PMUnknown

PE,
No dispute that the existing residence at that area have the right to protest ... however, I guess the timing is a bit out or too late to protest now ... for those who protest now, what is the ultimate goal they want to see? Do they want VG cannot get OC forever so that they will be happy?

If they want to protest, they should do it all the way before this project was approved. Protesting now will just make harm to the owners who already paid so much money to the property, not the developer!!!

How would you feel if you are one of the owners of this property who already paid lots of your hard earned money to purchase this property???

So, what is important now is not to blame each others but rather to find a win-win solution. Agree???

 
May 21, 2010 at 12:47 PMUnknown

Funny, we keep hearing that traffic, traffic and traffic is the biggest concern.

PE,
Can you educate me what is really the problem with the traffic? Would you mind to give more description on the traffic concern?

The way I see it, main entrance is perfectly ok (sorry to those landed house owners along the road, but, you are not alone in this world, we have to compromise and know how to share something that is owned by public), so, no traffic concern at all ... for the exit at the back, yes, it might post some level of safety concern BUT it can be solved if some enhancement make to this exit points such as setting up some sign board and tighten the speed limits or even draw some zebra or yellow box at that area to increase drivers awareness and sensitivity... we need to know, there are risk everytime when we drive, but, can we said that becoz of driving posing risk to drivers and its passengers, then we should stop driving car or the government need to stop building high way???

I had been staying in this area for the past 10 years and look at Muatiara Indah or other apartment nearby, any traffic safety issue with their entrance and exit area? And why OC can be issued for it???

If really there is a valid traffic safety concern on this Jalan Bukit Gambier becoz of the downhill slope that making the incoming vehicles go really fast, should JKR, JPJ or other government department take some action to improve it???

 
May 22, 2010 at 12:21 AMUnknown

Hi PE, I did not say we want to know whether the existing resident has made compalaint to MPPP. ' Bakal penghuni' means someone who going to stay in the new condominium, not the existing resident in the surrounding. If the officer claim ' dikatakan membahayakan bakal penghuni' as one of the main reason to reject the OC, then he should prove that majority of the bakal penghuni has made such complaint to MPPP. Not just simply say.

I can simply say that ' dikatakan prestasi economi Malaysia akan mencapai 15% pertumbuhan tahun 2010'. Do you believe? Whether this is true or not,it is not important. This is because I am not a decision maker and my word not affected others.

If one day, someone come to you and say ' anda dikatakan melanggar undang-undang dan perlu bayar RM 500.00 sekarang, are you going to simply paying him the amount of money?

 
May 22, 2010 at 2:28 AMUnknown

Firstly, I am a neutral party, I am neither owner nor investor for this property. But, I am a humble PG resident that concerned about our state development and issues deal with our society.

After reading all the relevant blogs and message posted here, I would like to give my 5 cents as a neutral party. J

Very obvious, the existing residents in this area are very concerning with the appearance and development of this newly condo who claimed will be making the traffic more congested and thus, I believe they had issued some complaints to MPPP in blank and white. However, my advise to those residents who make the complaints, you will have to accept this as fact now, the entire completed new Condo is already in front of you, what is the point to make the complaint now instead of stopping this project at the early stage. I urge you to think again from other angle. Let think by wearing the shoe of the owners who already paid few hundred thousand in buying this condo. Whatever you write in or complaining now to MPPP is not going to be harmful to the developer. On the other hand, I feel like you should feel lucky … why? Imagine if this is a medium cost or low cost apartment was built, not this condo which priced at a market value of ~400k, imagine again, if this apartment was not providing two car parks to each units, what will happen at the front of your house gate. Try to imagine all these happened altogether, what will happen to your existing housing area … I bet you can easily tell, right? I am very surprise to read jasonwong2010’s post to state that this is a high density condo with 144 units with 288 cars, you might want to visit this site more frequently and looks at other apartment/condo around us before you are making this statement. So, should you feel lucky now instead of complaining? It is very true that someone stated here, we are not alone in this world, we got to know to share the resources with everyone, to be fair to everyone.

Secondly, to the owners of this condo, I hope you would not fight blindly for what-so-ever things just to justify for OC. You guys really need to understand the real issue here that blocking OC issuance by MPPP. Is it a real safety concern here? But after all, I do agree that you are the group that will be the biggest victim in this scenario after the existing residents in this area, again, not the developer!!!!

About the surau, this one really interesting. I would like to ask some general questions here:
1. Why we must have surau at this condo? What kind of rule is this? Are we really ONE MALAYSIA? If yes, then not only we need to build surau, we have to build a place for praying for all religions in order to show our RESPECT to all those religions.
2. Do we have a rule to decide what kind of religion praying place we need the most based on the populations of the future residents by their religions?
3. Without building a surau, one might claims that we are not expecting Islam religion. Is it really the case?

Lastly, to MPPP who rejected the OC, instead of giving very high level statement of “jalan keluar yang dikatakan membahayakan bakal penghuni”, have MPPP really make a thorough study on the traffic flow? Does MPPP has any statistic data to support the safety statement they made? OK, let do some simple arithmetic here, let say this condo will add a total of 300 additonal cars in this existing housing area, we divide by 12 hours for car in/out, so, as average, we have 25 cars/hour that will exit from this condo to the main road. However, the real question is, does this 25 cars/hour really make a big impact to the existing car flow to this main road? What is the existing cars/hour in this road that passed by. I made a blind logical attempt here, per my observation, easily 300-400 cars/hour or even higher. With that said, is the additional 25 cars/hour really matter??? It is really sad to see MPPP is publicly a statement like this without any supporting data.

 
May 22, 2010 at 1:07 PMUnknown

In a nutshell. If the plan was approved by MPPP before the contsruction commenced, why they rejected the OC? Unless it wasn't built according to the plan, as simple as that.

 
May 22, 2010 at 2:09 PMUnknown

I want to make a deal with you. Can we have an understanding or not? The understanding is quite simple. I help you, you help me. If we win next election, OC no problem. Do we have a deal or not?

 
May 23, 2010 at 12:05 AMUnknown

Hi All,

Understand that VG developer has just completed the construction of a surau which has fulfilled the requirements as what have been demanded by MPPP. Also, they had also came to a compromise with MPPP on the exit. Don't forget original approved plan is to have the same exit and entry on the main entrance. It is YB from PKR/PAS/DAP government who wants the second exit as they received a lot of complaints on the congested entrance. To be honest, i guess the existing residents should have blamed the previous government instead for simply approving project.

Also got to understand that the developer will re-submit the application on Monday. This is going to be buyers important week now, really hope it can be approved now. Even though the developer might not be doing well on few areas, they have at least worked very hard and sincerely on getting things right on OC application.

All buyers, let's email to Ahli MPPP, Iszuree to urge him to consider the OC application reasonably. His email is iszuinfotech@gmail.com. Remember, it will be our loss if oc keep delaying. Please also send all your comments here to Iszuree. Comments posted here will not reach MPPP who might not even aware the existence of this blog. Please make sure your suggestions and comments are well heard by MPPP. They are the one who is deciding on issuing the OC. If don't do anything to do it, nothing will happen and OC will always be a dream!!

I'm a die hard supporter for DAP, i don't hope they will let me down again this time!!!

 
May 23, 2010 at 1:21 AMUnknown

Email from ISZUREE IBRAHIM, ahli Majlis MPPP to all VG buyers.

-------------------------------------------------
En TS Yew
Pengarah Bangunan MPPP,

Di sini saya sertakan keluhan pembeli Vista Gambier yang telah menunggu sekian lama.
Saya memohon supaya disegerakan kerja - kerja teknikal yang belum selesai oleh pemaju yang masih tidak menepati kehendak kelulusan CF .Sila aturkan satu lawatan tapak bersama Pemaju dan badan / jabatan yang berkaitan termasuk dari wakil MAINPP supaya ini dapat mempercepatkan kerja kerja kelulusan dengan syarat ia menepati kehendak kelulusan CFO.

Dan

Kepada : Semua Pembeli Vista Gambier ,

Diharap anda dapat bersabar untuk membolehkan Pemaju dan badan badan yang berkaitan melakukan kerja mereka dalam memastikan menepati kelulusan CF.Pemaju perlulah dipertanggungjawabkan dalam hal kelewatan ini disebabkan mereka sendiri yang tidak mematuhi syarat Plan Pembangunan yang disediakan.Tekanan perlulah diberi kepada pihak Pemaju dalam memastikan mereka "Do It Right In The First Time" dengan ini dapat mengelakan berlakunya kelewatan.Saya memberi jaminan pihak MPPP akan memastikan kelulusan CF akan disegerakan sebaik kesemua masalah yang dibangkitkan menepati syarat kelulusan CF.Sekian


Thank You!

Best & Regards,

ISZUREE IBRAHIM
--------------------------------------------
Ahli Majlis MPPP

 
May 23, 2010 at 1:42 AM陈升润

In respect to VG's opinion, my view is not entirely similar.

I'd agree with the residence concern of high traffic but i doubt it will be a problem to the landed property in front as it is the exit and not entrance. It may be a hindrance but the traffic flow should not.

As for the owners of the condo ( I'm one of them ) we are not fighting 'blindly' as mentioned. We are enquiring into the issues faced and urge the developer to come to a conclusion on what should be done instead. Vg might not have known this but we are also concerned as we are the people who will be living in that condo and we take greater concern than anyone else.

It's a norm to have a surau for every new condo development. This is not a concern.

The MPPP should help the developer to come to a mutual understanding such as giving useful input on how to resolve the issue instead of pointing out problems. I'm not there to witness the comments but I think the MPPP is doing a great job with the developer.

As a conclusion, let's give both the government, MPPP and the developer a round of applause

PS: Hey, at least we don't have to wait 1/2 year or more like so other condos :) (although we could do it right the first time as mentioned by Iszuree )

 
May 23, 2010 at 3:41 AMUnknown

Hi 陈升润,
I just would like to clarify to you, I did not said the owners fight blindly but instead, it is my advice to all owners so that they will not fight blindly as I stated above "I hope"

Secondly, I would like to ask you ... what does it mean by NORM? What is NORM and who define the NORM? why it is a NORM to have a surau and not a church, not a hindu temple and chinese temple? I guess, we should start asking ourselves with all these questions. What ever happen in the past might not correct or perfect.

This is why we have a big change in PG's government. Looking for change for a better tomorrow's for a real ONE MALAYSIA. And things can start here in PENANG, we need to tell and showcase to other states, we are DARE to challenge the status quo and we are DARE to change for BETTER.

Like Bellick, I am a die hard supporter to DAP and it is great to see that actions had been taken by all relevant parties in such a short period of time to come to a mutual agreement and solution.

KUDOS to everyone, now, let's see the outcome i.e. OC issuance will happen next week!!!

Good luck to all VG Owners and also I hope the existing residents in this area is happy with the solution.

 
May 24, 2010 at 8:01 PMUnknown

hai guys pls dun quarrel here. we are here to help to solve the problem and we want our house to be ready for living. The norm he mean here is the building regulation actually and shouldn't be said as norm. Another thing I don't quite agree is political power and the council officer should carry out their duty independently from political pressure. let's help to do something out to solve this issue. thanks

 
May 24, 2010 at 11:09 PM陈升润

Chan is right, it's the regulation. :) Thanks for correcting me, Chan. My bad english.

 
June 3, 2010 at 9:00 AMSLG

After a few weeks, still no news for the OC!

 
June 3, 2010 at 12:44 PMUnknown

OC already obtained. Guard house opens now too. Buyers can start collecting key from now.

 
June 3, 2010 at 1:06 PMSLG

Does anyone knows are they still going to fix the upper parking roof cover and reassign the motorbike parking lot to others place instead of beside car park??

 
June 3, 2010 at 4:09 PMpatwong

bellick,
R u sure... Confirm.. OC obtained???

 
June 4, 2010 at 12:20 AMUnknown

I think is collecting the key only.

 
June 4, 2010 at 7:20 AM蓝调精灵

what can owner do with key but without OC? dun think can start renovate the unit.

 
June 4, 2010 at 4:48 PMKoay

Just called up Lereng Wira & I was told that OC obtained on 27/5/2010. They are now arranging owners to collect keys. Hooray....

 
June 5, 2010 at 5:19 PMUnknown

Hi all ... Please don discuss on the OC already ... OC confirm obtained on last month ... Owner can start to collect key and renovation ....
Let thank to those ppl who help to accelerate the process obtain the OC ....

 
June 7, 2010 at 3:41 PMszern

how much is vista gambier selling price now?

 
June 9, 2010 at 1:26 PMismai khan

Congratulations and Welcome to Vista Gambier Purchasers. However take note that there are three telco towers built very near to the apartments which may cause/effect health problem. Those towers were facing directly to the aprtments. The latest was installed yesterday.

 
June 9, 2010 at 3:06 PMUnknown

hi Ismai Khan,

Where do they install the latest tower? Beside the existing 2 towers?

I guess the exisiting bungalow owners beside them would be very piss off.

 
June 10, 2010 at 3:50 PMismai khan

Hi Bellick, Yes the new one is just beside the existing two towers. However the new one will be as big as the one near tesco. We have to complain otherwise there will be no limit. Eventually the whole place will be full of telco towers.

 
June 10, 2010 at 9:45 PMSLG

1 of the management ppl named uncle sam is LW boss. Not sure he is the 1 who threaten the owners before.

 
June 21, 2010 at 10:59 AMUnknown

Apparently the in house contractor is charging >45% more compare to the standard fair market on the renovation !!!

 
June 21, 2010 at 3:42 PMHasan.M.

Seems like, they aren't allow the owners to hire external contractor for renovation. Really pity the new buyer already spend 400k++ purchase price then some more have to spend another 100k for ronovation by hire in house contractor!

 
June 22, 2010 at 5:46 PMKC

Why buy a Condo like this (it does not look like a Luxury Condo) at 400K when u can get a 2nd hand landed terrace house in Tmn Bkt Gambir at less than 570K ?

 
June 23, 2010 at 10:31 AMUnknown

I'm strongly encourage the owners say "no" to this bad culture in pg and report to police!!!

 
June 23, 2010 at 10:54 PMJoe

What D'Piazza resident did was, PICK UP THE CALL AND CALL POLICE...

 
June 23, 2010 at 11:23 PMconcern

If in S N P did not specific anything why you guy worry about? Find your own contractor lah.

 
June 24, 2010 at 12:29 AMUnknown

I really hope our new CAT government can do something on this bad culture that exist long ago only in PG ...

For those owners that plan to do renovation, please say "NO NO NO" to this blood sucking in house contractor & report to police if they do anything to you like threatening etc etc ...

On all previous cases at other property, owners win the game when legal action kick in (police, lawyer, press etc)...

 
June 25, 2010 at 1:14 PMandy

The problem is how many owners can stand out together to solve this issue? There are a lot of timid and selfish person. Maybe some of them will fight for beginning, but after the developer offer them an under table deal then they will keep quiet already!

 
July 23, 2010 at 10:29 PMUnknown

All VG Owners,
If you face any problem about the gangster contractor, please contact the Gelugor Assembly Man -- YB Rayer, who is also a lawyer. His contact no. is 019-4132681. We need you coorperation & help to eliminate the Penang bad culture, thanks.

 
July 26, 2010 at 9:00 AMHasan.M.

YB Lim,
Thanks for you information.

 
July 27, 2010 at 10:15 PMJoe

Pls dont be afraid of them.. I believe they are same group from Iregency project.
All they have is just talk talk talk..
And make sure they dont bribe your guys to provide them info on which contractor come in, etc.

What some resident did was...
Ask them to wait... pick up a phone and dial 046430222 Polis SgNibong and tell the police about the threatening.

Few times naik kereta and ikat jamin... They sure cannot tahan

 
July 28, 2010 at 3:36 AMUnknown

Warning: Who ever call this number to complain ur unit will damage and broken.

 
July 28, 2010 at 10:58 AMPen

Anoy999:
Are you threatening the ppl here or you are cautioning them? The statement you posted on here is enough to get you into trouble.

 
July 28, 2010 at 11:38 AMUnknown

Anoy99, you are clearly threatening the unit owners here with "gangster style". So are you the "in-house" contractor for VG?

 
July 28, 2010 at 4:12 PMHasan.M.

Anoy999,
Are you Sam or Ooi??? Here is city bukan kampung!!!

 
July 30, 2010 at 7:52 AMUnknown

Anoy999,
I really hope you could damage or break some units in order to make the issue really BIG and the state government will KILL this bad culture FOREVER in Penang !!!

 
July 30, 2010 at 9:28 AMandy

Anoy999,
Don't worry, we will report to the polis to assure nothing bad happen to our units and safety. VG have security and CCTV, who can simply go in and break our units? The answer is insider! So I don't think the polis and government are brainless!!!

 
August 6, 2010 at 10:36 AMSLG

Seems like there are a lot of VG investor, everyday can see on the newspaper and website.

 
August 16, 2010 at 8:35 AMUnknown

Dear owner , we are having bulk purchase at our new condo , would like to invite VG resident to share on it , got hood , hob , mattress ,kitchen cabinet , electronic item , toilet door(bi fold)etc , gather more people buy we can get more discount.

to get more detail pls email to : lubangking@gmail.com

 
October 5, 2010 at 8:15 PMUnknown

Anyone having problem with the 'in-house' contractor? What is their pricing generally?

 
October 6, 2010 at 5:46 PMUnknown

Their pricing is totally crazy and not reasonable at all !!! Seems like they want to force owners to do at least 20-25k renovation with them before they can go for external contractors for other reno items. This is completely "suck" ...

 
October 6, 2010 at 8:45 PMAnonymous

I think we house owners should work together to resolve this issue.

I cannot find any information in the sales and purchase agreement stating that we MUST engage their service.

Also their prices are more than 50% of the cost price.

Do we have any house owner here from the legal profession who can offer advise on this matter?

I thinking we are better off spending our hard earn money engaging a lawyer to fight this injustice than getting ripped off by them.

Please advise.

 
October 6, 2010 at 11:20 PMUnknown

I think all the owners should get the quotation and bring it to DAP askibng for help/justice.

The in house contractor is like thief robbing owners hard earn money by forcing them doing renovation with them.

 
October 6, 2010 at 11:45 PMUnknown

sounds like they are very pricy & blood sucking. how abt the workmanship & quality? equally suck?

 
October 7, 2010 at 8:58 AMEuge

Yes, their quotation is double up from the market price. YB Gelugor advised that owner should appoint their own contractor and apply from management 1st, if the management or in house contractor stop you then he can help on this. YB said that management or in house contractor is no right to force the owner to hire them, but the thing is no one want to take the cement task from you. So, I think the only way is compare the prices and nego with them if you rush to move in. But don't hire them 100% for your renovation because their handiwork and quality is bad, I just heard owner complain to them.

 
October 16, 2010 at 12:26 PMUnknown

The in house contractor was over and i think is time for owner to wake up to kick them out........they act like they have a renovation right on our house.......n never think that who suppose the owner and consumer?? Where is the right?

 
October 23, 2010 at 8:59 AMUnknown

By law, owner can't kick in house contractor out because they are appointed by the developer & management side. Unless the owner have already formed committee & take over the management.

 
October 23, 2010 at 11:46 PMUnknown

Got such thing one meh? Precisely, which law state that?

 
October 28, 2010 at 9:45 AMCEJ

Hi,
Does anyone notice that just level P2 of the car park got card access system? How about the others level? Do you think that outsider is very easy to enter your unit?
No wonder the management stuff's house kena pecah by pencuri!

 
October 30, 2010 at 12:18 AMUnknown

Really huh? Management staff's house kena break in? Then it's time developer step up the security measures in VG. Say dont want to listen, listen dont want to do, do dont want to bear cost..... etc etc.

 
November 29, 2010 at 3:19 PMUnknown

I am a potential buyer but when I went to see the unit last two weeks, noticed that the card access control is only at P1. P2 and P3 car park has no access control at all ...

Pretty concern with this security loop hole.

Anyone especially existing owners know if the developer going to fix this PROBLEM???

 
December 16, 2010 at 11:29 PMKS_rev

VG owners please becareful, recently a few units being break-in....really salute the courageness of those 'spiderman' thiefs.....heard that is 'inside job'....

 
December 20, 2010 at 11:41 PMAnonymous

His KS_rev, really, what happend? I am interested to buy a corner unit at Vista Gambier for my parent to stay, this news worried me, is the management of this condo that bad? By the way, what is the maintenance fee for this project?

 
December 21, 2010 at 9:55 AMKS_rev

Hi Yeong,

Maintenance is around 170, normally new condo will have some break-in cases, it is just a matter of lucky/unlucky. But beware if u buy this u need to deal with gangster contractor there, they will "bao" all the reno works, u can't bring in your own contractor. End of the day u spend a lot reno fee.

 
December 22, 2010 at 12:01 AMAnonymous

Hi KS_rev

Thanks for your input, for the gangster contractor, is it common for new condo project in Penang to always have something like that happend or is it because this Vista Gambier project developer allow them to do so?

 
December 22, 2010 at 9:59 AMSLG

Vista Gambier Developer, Management & In house Contactor is same, they are together 1. They are some of the house owners there. Owners should form up the commit to take over the management as soon as possible, instead of let them to manage as their business!

 
January 5, 2011 at 1:24 PMAs God Wills - the Childless couple

Dear Owners and Residents,

I have not made a commitment to buying Vista Gambier, but very very keen. Can you please give me your very honest opinion about the place and staying there. I hope that you'll give me the pros and cons about staying there (I am interested to stay there and not as an investment). Thanks. P.

 
January 5, 2011 at 8:47 PMSLG

Vista Gambier:
--------------
Location: Good!
Environment: Good!
Density: Low!
Air Ventilation: Good!

Developer: Worst!!!
Management: Worst!!!
In House Contractor: Worst!!!

1) Using maintenance fee for security door installation at level 3 & 4 car park. (this should be ready by the developer before O.C. obtained, instead of using maintenance fee)

2) Owners should pay rental RM30 for motorcycle park per month.

3) Owners should pay deposit RM500 & rental RM300 for BBQ, table & the common area between swimming pool & elevator.

4) Visitors should pay visitor car park fee if parking over 4 hours or parking over night.

*** Recent Management = Developer = In House Contractor!!!

 
January 5, 2011 at 9:28 PMAs God Wills - the Childless couple

Dear Jaren - thank you for those honest views about Vista Gambier. I am so glad to hear your response. Can I ask you another question - I am afraid of i)the noise from Jalan Yeap Chor Yee, do you find it noisy?; ii) is there a possibility of PORR road being built?

I look forward to other response about Vista Gambier. THANKS SO MUCH for all your time. P.

 
January 15, 2011 at 8:08 AMAs God Wills - the Childless couple

Hello Everyone,

I am a very interested buyer of Vista Gambier. I was recently told that an expressway will be built in front of Vista Gambier. I am not sure whether this is true or not, that is why I am writing in this blog hoping someone can shed some light. Is this expressway, the PORR project? Any info will be most appreciated. This info is important for my decision about Vista Gambier - afterall, I can only afford one home and I want to be happy about buying it. Thanks. P.

 
January 15, 2011 at 10:31 AMKS_rev

Hi Anon100,

yes it is the PORR project. But it has been talking for so long time (>10 yrs) and no further progress.

I bet my bottom dollar that it had been cancelled/on-hold indefinately :)

 
January 15, 2011 at 3:04 PMUnknown

has anyone heard that the title might not be approved because there is something wrong with the plan. Can someone please tell me what does that mean and let me know if you have further information ASAP because i'm looking to buy a unit. Thank you.

 
January 15, 2011 at 6:30 PMAs God Wills - the Childless couple

KS-rev - thank you very much for responding! May I ask if you are an owner? Yes, I am aware that PORR project is an old suggestion. From my blog readings from sept/oct 2009, is that CAP tried to ask for the project to be canceled but LGE replied that it may still proceed!This is the MAIN reason I am concerned and writing in this blog for some information. What is irony is that when PORR was mooted, it was DAP who put up resistance because it will affect many residences and destroy the environment. I really hope that you are right because I am very keen on Vista Gambier.

 
January 15, 2011 at 6:36 PMAs God Wills - the Childless couple

Hello Sheryl - good that you brought it up. I think we are both in the same boat - we want to be sure of our purchase. What I would suggest is you ask the agent showing you the unit because I am going to. Sheryl, I will write again once I ask my agent about this.You can also write to me at aanon941@gmail.com if you have further info.

 
January 17, 2011 at 8:10 AMUnknown

Anon100,
Mind to what is your real concerns with PORR if it build in this area?

Furthermore, this project had been there for >10 years but never get "executed".

Share more with us since I am currently an existing happy resident of VG :)

 
January 17, 2011 at 10:40 AMAs God Wills - the Childless couple

Hello Bayern,

Thanks very much for responding. I was afraid that most owners do not enter this blog anymore since they have purchased the unit. I am very happy to hear you are happy with the place. I am close to making a purchase and have visited 2 units. When I was there,I was concerned about the empty stretch of road in front on Vista Gambier and was told that was the road (ready) for PORR. My concern is that if it does cut through then the noise pollution will be quite loud.

As an owner, you must have decided that PORR will not happen?

Bayern, since you are on the blog - what about the concern about the title as Sheryl has brought up.

THANKS VERY MUCH. I can be contacted at aanon941@gmail.com if anyone wish to write to me.

 
January 17, 2011 at 10:49 AMSLG

Hi Anon100,
I think every vg owners had already taken this for part of consideration before buying this project. Between, no one can ensure that the PORR won't be build in future even the government themselves.

 
January 17, 2011 at 2:30 PMUnknown

Sheryl, what the issue with the plan that could cause the title cannot be approved?

This is some info that I can find via the internet about strata title.

So, maybe it is the developer's strategy to try to make money from the residents there by avoiding them to form their own MC to take over the maintenance of the property.

"Strata title is similar to land grants it basically gives you the right to occupy a piece of land or in your case stratified space...

Its important because once you have your title you have certain rights and privileges.

For example residents of flat, apartment, condominium and high rise buildings can form a Management Corporation (MC) to run the management and maintenance services of their property. If you don't have a strata title you cannot form and MC and you cannot vote.

Also should you decide to sell the property, the strata title enable the transfer of the property to the new owner.

Some developers refuse to apply for strata titles because they can make extra money after projects are completed by forming their own MC and collecting maintenance and other misc. fees from residents. Residents also cannot do much to oppose these developers because their rights are curtailed without strata titles."

So, to all potential buyers, do make sure the strata titles is out before you purchasing any units here ...

 
January 17, 2011 at 2:36 PMUnknown

More info about Strata Title ...



Importance of strata titles

According to statistics compiled by the House Buyers Association (HBA), problems with strata titles make up most of the complaints received from buyers. It is no secret that numerous strata title properties are still managed by the developer even though the Certificate of Fitness for Occupation (CF) were issued years ago.

The HBA's advice to house buyers is to "get, keep and preserve" the strata titles to their units for the following reasons:

As ultimate proof of ownership.

As a dealing instrument for instances of charging to banks for loans.

To facilitate disposal should they wish to sell so that they will not be imposed "consent fees" by the developer.

To be able to initiate and get involved when the Management Corporation (MC) is formed by owners of the units in the subdivided building to maintain and manage the property.

As final proof of the built-up area of the unit and ultimately, the apportionment of the share in the total aggregate units.

As long as strata titles have not been transferred, the land the common property are still owned by the developer.

Should a project be orphaned (as when the developer goes under liquidation or becomes insolvent) before strata titles have been obtained, the unit owners will have to go through a lot of trouble or might eventually have to pay for the application of the strata titles themselves.

 
January 17, 2011 at 3:05 PMUnknown

Anon100, Sheryl and other potential VG buyers,

Be sure you have the black and white from developer on the strata title application status before you purchase any unit from them !!!

It could be their plan to have no strata title for this property so that they can continue to manage this propoerty by them to make money from the residents !!!

FYI, one funny rule for this condo is that, we need to RM30 per month in order to rent a place to park our motorcycle and we are not allow to park motorcycle on our allocated car parks ... this rule sounds very crazy and funny to me. Since we owe the car park, why can't I park my motorcycle on my allocated parking lot??????

Also, even a low cost flat has a allocated space for car wash but VG is not going to have any car wash area for residents ... what the hell??? Is the developer has some side business for car washing????

However, I consider all these are small issues that can be resolved once we have the strata title and form the MC by the residents ...

Another thing that I observed recently, noticed that there is some hidden place/room under the P2 car park area for the "workers" to stay within the property/condo ... feel a bit weird to have all the workers staying there together with all the residents ... do we have the same thing happen at other condo???????

 
January 18, 2011 at 10:59 AMUnknown

Hi Anon100, Bayern,

Thanks for your responses.

Anon100 - I don’t think the agent knows enough to answer my questions.

Actually, I was looking at the floor plan in this website the other day, the intermediate and corner unit’s built up area should be the same. However, the corner units have been advertised as 1550sq feet (vs 1350 sq feet for intermediate unit). Obviously, the corner unit’s has been sold at a higher price based on the ‘supposed’ extra built up area of ~200sq feet ‘owned’ by the corner unit owner. But based on the layout, the corridor of the corner unit is shaded as common area. So, what will the title be? Does that mean there’s discrepancy on the submitted plan, if there’s the discrepancy between the submitted plan which only allowed 1350sq feet as allocated built up area, but the corridor is being ‘sold’ as part of corner unit’s built up area, is that going to create problem with the title being granted? Furthermore, I can see that some of the corner unit already claimed as their built-up area as it’s being closed up with windows and glass door. Wouldn’t that be against the law. Would there be any inspection by the authority/council before the title is granted? If yes, does that the owner of corner unit has to remove the window to ‘unclaimed’ the corridor area to comply to the original plan application? At the moment, the monthly maintenance fee is the same for all the units as they are supposed to have the same built up area but now the corner unit has the extra 200sq feet, would the new MC decided to charge more then?

 
January 20, 2011 at 3:27 PMAs God Wills - the Childless couple

Hello Sheryl - indeed you have a very good point there. Since I was not able to afford the corner units, I never paid much attention to it - but what you have raised is very important. Technically, I guess, if the corner units are larger and the cost of maintenance is by per sq ft - then yes, it should be more than the intermediate units.

Similarly, the intermediate units are 119 sq.meter, which is approximately 1280 Sq feet. So I am wondering why the units are advertised as 1343 or 1350 sq ft?? Has anyone asked the Developer? but I think I read this in earlier blogs - there was no definite answer.

 
February 7, 2011 at 9:53 AMUnknown

What happen to the swimming pool? It becomes the "algae" pool now ... really bad maintenance during CNY period. Disappointed with the management :(

I hope they can take appropriate action as soon as possible ... if not, will really spoil VG image and value in long run.

 
February 8, 2011 at 1:16 PMUnknown

Yes, the swimming pool had been recovered :)

 
February 11, 2011 at 1:48 PMAnonymous

Wonder whether inhouse contractor stil thre?? When they will move out? any idea?

 
February 15, 2011 at 10:26 AMM

There are many pre-fab condominium being built - is VG white bricks or pre-fab? Cannot be sure from the pictures. I guess VG is fully occupied? not many comments coming from this blog.

 
February 18, 2011 at 10:18 AMHasan.M.

There are a lot of owners keeping animal in their units... sigh...

 
February 26, 2011 at 6:31 PMUnknown

Are prices of condo coming down? Is it worth waiting to see what happens this year? since there is a lot on sales now. Thanks.

 
February 28, 2011 at 6:03 AMsan

1. Would like to alert everyone that there is a group of pick pocket in Queensbay Mall. The tactic is they follow the target and execute the pick pocket on escalator.
2. When you are on the escalator, there will be 2 guys rush to overtake you. They will stand in front of you to block you. The 3rd guy will rush to the place next to you.
3. When the 2 guys in front of you about to reach the end of escalator, one of them will knee down and pretend to collect something or to tie shoe lace to cause you to be clamped in within, panic and de-focus due to the disruption. (Because you cannot move)
4. So, at that moment, the 3rd guy will pick up anything from your pocket.
5. Precaution : When you see somebody rush to stand in front of you on escalator and another one rush to stand beside you, you better move away/move backward.
6. I believe they mark you when you make any cash withdrawal at the bank in Queensbay Mall.
7. They look like Sabahan or Filipono. The pick pocket look casual with sharp nose. 175cm to 180 cm.

 
March 15, 2011 at 11:50 AMUnknown

VG resident meeting this thursday 17.3.2011, 8pm, gym room. if u hv problem with the inhouse contractor, its time for you to take action.

 
April 7, 2011 at 3:19 AMUnknown

hi all, i just check with the mangement office,
if i buy vista gambier, do renovation,
i need to use their in house contractor ??
and they said in house electric cable work also
need them to do ?
is this true..
really upset when hearing this..
can anybody give me some guide?

 
April 7, 2011 at 8:48 AMKS_rev

in house contractor = gangster contractor....prepare to get your head chop...

somehow i heard you can engage the outside contractor, provided you let them hacking and buy sand/brick/cement from them.....better check with the resident there....management office is pakat with those in-house contractors

 
April 7, 2011 at 9:32 PMUnknown

thank KS_rev for yr reply,
i had find in this blog, havent found any resident email to contact..
i am keen to purchase this condo, but wiring job also need to 'BAO' by them , is a bit over ....
hopefully any resident in VG can give some advise...
thanks again KS_rev...

 
April 8, 2011 at 9:47 AMEuge

Ooi,
There are 2 options for you.
1) Buy 1st then renovate after in housae contractor move out.
2) Buy the unit after they move out.

By right, they should be move out after September 2011.

 
May 18, 2011 at 11:50 PMUnknown

Can anyone tell me when will the in-house contractor move out?

 
September 12, 2011 at 10:52 PMAnne G

Hi all,

Any news on the strata for VG?

Another thing, has the in house contractor left?

From what i've read thus far:
Kinda ridicoulous to pay 300 to rent the BBQ area.
No place for car wash.
Visitor car park fine.

Has any of the rule changed? or is it still the same?

 
October 8, 2011 at 12:35 PMUnknown

the contractor already left
I found from VG to YCE road to b/lepas is not possible..
any comment?

 
October 9, 2011 at 7:53 PMAnne G

Unknown - The in-house contractor has left?

Need to do u-turn at the traffic light to the kampung kastam flats.
I would prefer the exit to be the same place as entrance so you can come out from Ashley Green traffic light junction.

 
October 11, 2011 at 8:59 PMUnknown

sorry Ann G, they coming back
and i heard they will stay there forever...
the reason is VG cannot stay clean and safe without them..
I just get the keys, don't know so much about that
I think developer + management + contractor = same group of ppl.
but as well as they really take good care.. I dun mind

 
October 23, 2011 at 9:26 PMAnne G

That's not good at all. I heard their charges are off the roof.
Anyone can confirm this? Will they ever leave?

 
October 23, 2011 at 10:49 PMUnknown

Anne, confirm can get outsider to do the works
but need to deposit 4500 to management
get back after 3 months
not sure how hard to "pray" $$ back

 
October 27, 2011 at 3:31 PMAnonymous

The developer and the current property management are different groups. However, although the JMB was formed a few months back, the developer still want to control everything in VG. That's why we are still seeing their people and the in-house contractor in VG. Pls stay united so that we can get rid of the developer from VG. God bless us all.

 
October 29, 2011 at 2:53 AMUnknown

hey!!! did ur know tat now all change committee d??? then all like RUBBISH!!!! dun ur know tat recently got problem at there condominium? recently got outside ppl come to renovation then motorbikes and helmet are missing!!! pls BEWARE!!!! so pls dun say all BULLSHIT!!!!!!

 
October 29, 2011 at 12:21 PMAnne G

Unknown: Do they guarantee a return of the deposit? anything signed? 4500 is quite a big amount.

Anonymous: It's good to know that the management is diff group. The news i'm getting is that it's still the same lady incharge. Has that changed?

mrs nox: It's rather unfortunate that what you said happened. No offense, But from your response, its quite clear ur from developer side.

 
October 30, 2011 at 4:45 PMUnknown

Anne G, I don't know how they "guarantee" ..
I also feel 4500 is big mooney.
The residents or committee should appoint a good management company like "BHL" or some well-know company to run this property.
else this handsome building will become low cost condo.
I am the owner , I don't wish to see this happen.

 
October 31, 2011 at 9:27 AMHasan.M.

Previously, when the developer in charged the management also got units kena "pecah rumah"! One of the reason for recent management difficult to carry their works is because of the developer don't want to cooperate with them & always make trouble.Especially is the boss of the developer named "Uncle Sam",he always act like good man but actually he is the one who most likely to become the chairman/comittee of JMB.

 
November 3, 2011 at 12:30 PMAnonymous

Anne G: That fat and crazy lady is from the developer's side. She thinks she is still powerful coz she is that so called "uncle sam" woman. I heard she shouted at all people. I also feel that mrs nox is from developer side.

If we don't unite, then the power will go to that "uncle sam" who is crazy for power and money. And only god knows what will happen after that.

 
November 3, 2011 at 9:09 PMUnknown

The fat bitch and old man is able to act as they wish because the committee is too weak and incompetent to stamp their authority.

The big boss of Lereng Wira has stated clearly in his notice to all residents recently that the developer has passed over the administrative power to the committee. I dont understand why the old man is so desperate to hold on to power.

The committee themselves also made unpopular decisions which alienate many of the house owners, particularly the fence sitters.

One of the blunder was the appointment of an external management company to manage Vista Gambier without even consulting the owners.

The external management company, despite coming with glowing recommendation from the committee has failed miserably. They not only failed to keep to old man at bay but instead let him be in control.

There was this case which the old man pressured the external management into issuing stop work order on a unit under renovation despite the owner and contractor complying with all the renovation rules.

The issue was only resolved after the owner's contractor went to see the building architect which gave green light for them to proceed with the renovation.

The old man also tried to undermined the external management by getting his men to either sabotage units under renovation or attempt to steal motorcycles.

His agenda is to make owners feel unsafe and push for the replacement of external management and committee.

The dilemma now is if we retain the committee and the external management, the old man will run the show from behind and continue sabotaging the committee and house owners.

If we were to replace the external management and committee, the old man will come to power and make Vista Gambier a communist condomimnium with his ridiculous rules.

The only way out for residents is to sue the old man and his fat mistress if they are giving you trouble. So far no residents has the guts to drag the old man to court despite being repeatedly bullied and sabotaged by him. Now is the time to stand up and tell him to go to hell.

 
November 3, 2011 at 11:21 PMpetestop

Hi guys,

From the complaints I see here, unfortunately this is happening all over Penang condos.

This is how the developer "milked" the owners for years, sometimes decades, before the Strata Title is issued. Because while the Strata Title is not issued, they are the king, and can manage the condo as they deem fit, appoint their own vendors, etc.

You think you going to get back the whole of your 4,500 deposit ? Think again.

Firstly, they will delay it for a few months, multiply that by how many units and the few months you take to renovate your units. Meanwhile, the developer is using your money to roll and do other project. Even just putting it in FD, they also earn.

Finally, when you wanna get back your deposit, they will discount a few hundred ringgit and say that it is "management fee".

Now, you keep paying maintenance, and they have a say which vendor to use, despite you using external property manager, as they hold majority on the committee. Thus, they continue milking the residence, even after selling you the condo at inflated price.

Get the picture yet ?

Unfortunately, your only remedy is to press for the Strata Title to be issued, then the residence themselves can form the Management Council and you have full control.

Btw, BHL is hardly the better property manager, I know, as they got kicked out from two of different condos I own.

Good luck!

 
November 4, 2011 at 8:08 AMtanprop

it is a common practice across penang island condo to collect deposit by mgmt prioir Renovation, although 4.5k in this case is proven to be a bit too hefty. Also in all cases which i knew, the owner just have to issue a cheque to mgmt, who shall hold on to it till the end of renovation and will not be en-cashed.

So for Vista Gambier owner, please kindly check the terms and condition.

 
November 4, 2011 at 10:53 AMHasan.M.

All VG Residence,
I'm agreed with what Petestop said. So the only thing we can do is waiting the Strata Title to be issued (heard that will get it soon). Then form our own management, but we have to make sure that we must united to prevent the old man & his supporters to be a committee members. If we can united then we can do it as previous election.

 
November 4, 2011 at 5:57 PMpetestop

One more thing guys, if you really care about your condo, at least make the effort to attend the AGM and do your vote.

It is only once a year (or latest is 1.5 years) thing.

 
November 5, 2011 at 7:05 AMUnknown

when is the next AGM?

 
December 14, 2011 at 6:49 PMHasan.M.

Just received the letter from the old man named "Uncle Sam" complaint about the JMC. At beginning, I thought he is a good man but After I found out that the reason why he always want to kacau and complaint about the JMC then I changed my mind. He did these is because he want to be chairman of the JMC and get the power. Previously, he tried to stop the residence to park their motobike at their own car park is because he owned a lot of motopark, so he want the residence to rent from him. He make me feel that he just want to do business through the management. I also suspect that the security, cleaner,access door technician and etc... also employed by his private company. Actually I feel sad to stay with this kind of people, but no choice... Hopefully, his supporters and him won't be the chairman or committee of our JMC, or else not sure what will be happened here... so worry...

 
December 15, 2011 at 9:27 PMAnne G

Heard that they are going to change the management again soon. Must be that old man kacau.Overheard he got many units there.

 
December 29, 2011 at 5:36 PMSLG

Most of the early buyers knew that this old man want to be "King in VG Condo", but new buyers might not know about that. He always said he don't wan to be chairman/committee but finally he was be 1 of the candidate of the chairman in last AGM election. Let's see this coming AGM election who will be the candidate of the chairman.

 
February 5, 2012 at 4:06 PMM

I am an owner of VG. When is the AGM? and is this 'Uncle Sam' still a nuisance?I agree with all of you - RM4,500 is too much, and the management cannot cash the cheque, if they do, all monies must be returned within 2 weeks after the renovation. No institutions are allowed to hold money unless they are banks.

 
February 28, 2012 at 11:39 AMpee

got 480K units ?

 
May 16, 2012 at 3:09 PMHasan.M.

Low floor is already been selling 600k, so I don't think still got unit is selling lower than 500k.

 
May 28, 2012 at 9:42 AMCEJ

Are there any baby sitter in this condo?

 
August 28, 2012 at 9:32 AMCEJ

You are right Hasan, agent told me that intermediate unit at 2nd floor already sold around rm650k.

 
January 4, 2013 at 11:44 AMandy

Does anyone want to rent out his car park?

 
June 22, 2013 at 11:53 PMEuge

So crazy... intermediate unit at middle floor sold with 750k...

 
September 10, 2013 at 9:08 AMUnknown

I was told that the strip of land next to VG for the previous outer-ring road will be reopened. Please confirm. Won't this create bad traffic noise??

 
September 10, 2013 at 9:15 AMM

No one seems to be saying anything about this opening of the road (next to west wing)? Does it mean the value of the unit will drop?

 
September 11, 2013 at 9:26 AMCEJ

Which apartment/condo is near to highway in Penang was value dropped? Answer is never! So, no worry.

 
September 12, 2013 at 8:36 PMM

Thanks CEJ for replying. Llike Unknown said, maybe traffic noise. What is the sale price for the units now - realistically. Thanks.

 
September 18, 2013 at 12:22 PMUnknown

What is the sale price for the units now - realistically. Thanks.

 
September 20, 2013 at 9:15 AMEuge

Intermediate unit at middle floor just sold 750k with renovated.

 
January 29, 2014 at 8:14 AMM

Maybe this is what some people say to scare us. I hear that VG is not structurally strong? Is this true? I cannot believe this as in blogs people say all sorts of things to try bring price down.

 
August 18, 2015 at 2:53 PMKen Saw

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Nice Unit
Fully Reno
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Seaview
1343 sqft with 2 Car Parks
Asking for RM668K nego

For Viewing, Kindly Contact
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January 16, 2016 at 8:27 PMAnonymous

Can I know what is the selling price now for VG?

 
December 2, 2016 at 1:18 PMUnknown

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to owners, you may contact me if you have any properties for sale or rent,
Kindly call / watsapp / wechat / SMS Nickson Oung from Elite Properties, 014-324 9506 for more information

 
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Will try my best to negotiate for u. TQ and have a nice day.

Owners who are willing to let go or rent can contact me too. TQ

 
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April 22, 2017 at 12:50 PMjqvnpjan

Vista Gambier @ For Sale

- 1343sf
- 3 room 2 bathroom
- 2 side by side carpark at ( P 3 )
- Furnished
- Fully Renovated ( full aircond, wet & dry kit cab , repainted )
- Penang Bridge View
- Middle Floor ( above level 10 )
- Vacant now, available for view in any moment
- Key With Me ( Rowan )

Please contact ( Rowan 010-2222707 ) and give him a chance to serve you
Thanks and have a nice

 
April 22, 2017 at 12:51 PMjqvnpjan

Vista Gambier @ For Sale

- 1343sf
- 3 room 2 bathroom
- 2 side by side carpark at ( P 3 )
- Furnished
- Fully Renovated ( full aircond, wet & dry kit cab , repainted )
- Penang Bridge View
- Middle Floor ( above level 10 )
- Vacant now, available for view in any moment
- Key With Me ( Rowan )

Please contact ( Rowan 010-2222707 ) and give him a chance to serve you
Thanks and have a nice

 
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