Surin Condominium


The Surin Condominium is ideally located on a 3.4 acres of development land in Tanjung Bungah Penang, a location of prestige that attracts not only locals but expatriates alike. Surin brings affluent living in Penang to a whole new level with its range of luxuries: an infinity swimming pool, a rooftop garden, ample car parking bays and 24-hours security.

The Surin consists of 2 luxury condominium blocks of 28-storey each and a total 390 units of freehold sea-view condos. Each unit offers a built-up area from 1,307 sq.ft. up to 2,827 sq.ft.

Property Project : Surin Condominium
Location : Tanjung Bungah, Penang (Property for sale & rent in Tanjung Bungah)
Property Type : Condominium (Condominium for sale & rent)
Tenure : Freehold
No. of Blocks : 2
No. of Storeys : 28
Total Units : 390
Built-up Area : approx. 1,307 - 2,827 sq.ft.
Developer : Bolton Berhad

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Photo taken by Fox - 29 Sept 2011


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Site Progress - Photo taken on 7 Sept 2009


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Tower A sea and city view

Block 1 Floor Plan

Floor Plan Type B

Floor Plan Type C

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January 11, 2008 at 9:41 AM Anonymous said...

How much and have it been launched?

 
January 31, 2008 at 10:33 AM Anonymous said...

is it a good location..?? any comment? any layout plan...??

 
February 21, 2008 at 10:25 PM Anonymous said...

this is on a hill slope. quite scary to have so many condos in that area.

 
March 16, 2008 at 6:00 PM Anonymous said...

The surrounding is quite congested. Yes, there're a few blocks of apartment and condominium not far away, near to Maybank and maybe a nice view on one of the icon in that area which is the famous floating mosque. However the price may be >400k for 13xx sqft. If the developer offers interest free till complettion then its not bad since location is at end of tanjung bungah. Heard that there's another condo already completed nearby with similar built up but lower density, somewhere near hillside. Plan to take a look. Not sure whether there's still units available.

 
March 25, 2008 at 4:44 PM Anonymous said...

anybody from Bolton Berhad? i wan to know more details regarding this Surin Condo.

 
March 27, 2008 at 3:45 PM Anonymous said...

Hello,
I am Lim from Bolton. I might able to help you. Please post your question

Regards

 
March 28, 2008 at 11:11 AM Anonymous said...

Hi Mr Lim,

can i know the price for this Surin Condo? Wat type do u hav? Buit-up area?

Tq

 
April 2, 2008 at 2:59 PM Anonymous said...

No news n No feedback from this developer:(

 
April 10, 2008 at 9:57 AM Anonymous said...

Hi Mr. Lim,

Can you arrange a site visit for me? and Pls tell me more of the MM2H.

Thanks

 
April 28, 2008 at 1:05 PM Anonymous said...

i have visited the actual site. they are currently clearing the land. It is in front of the Straits Regency (SR)condo and next to the Coastal Tower condo. I really pity SR as all the seaview for lower units will be blocked once Surin is up. In front of Surin are landed property. So buyers are assured of seaview. For typical unit, there are 2 sizes, 1300 and 1500. 8 units per floor. The 1500 type has 2 balcony - Master Room and Living. The gate/entrance to the condo is not on the main road. They will build a road behind the condo. Currently they are selling for 1 block. The other block will only be launched mid of this year. price is pretty reasonable. You can still get a seaview unit for around 440k. the best part is the price does not jump drasticly from one floor to another, only a jump of 4k for every 5 floors.

 
May 2, 2008 at 2:15 PM jess said...

Is it freehold? How long it take from town? how is the past record of its developer? realiable? TQ

 
May 2, 2008 at 4:44 PM Anonymous said...

jess, it is at the end part of Tanjung Bungah. Further up, you will reach the famous Batu Ferringhi beach. It is freehold. From town (i am assuming you are referring to Komtar area), it will take like 20-30 mins drive. developer is Bolton. They are pretty well known in KL but this is their 1st project in Penang.

 
May 2, 2008 at 5:22 PM jess said...

Dear friend, thank for your info. I am quite interested with condo which got nice sea view, any one can help to introduce some more, not the too expensive one like gurney paragon, hi...! I have booked a unit Duplex in Sea View condo in Butterworth, 1700+ sq ft price 373k+, unfurnished,high floor, 5 mins from ferry terminal. S&P not sign yet, any one could give advice is it worth to buy, since i am not local Penang, i don't know is it worth or not? Thanks

 
May 2, 2008 at 5:57 PM Anonymous said...

jess, if you prefer sea view, then you cannot go wrong with area like Gurney Drive, Tanjung Tokong, Tanjung Bungah, Batu ferringhi. They are all located in Penang island. I am not too sure on Prai area though. Surin high floor is like 447k for 1500sf unit. definitely you will get good seaview direct from your master bedroom balcony. The living room balcony will also have good seaview. Definitely the property in Penang island is more sought after than Prai. The price are much different too. If i am you, i will give Surin a look before deciding. You might like it.

 
May 2, 2008 at 8:04 PM jess said...

Dear friend, thanks for your useful advise. How far is Surin from the beach by walking? I really interested. Since i am not in Penang, is there any other way i can get all the selling material for this condo. Like floor plan, selling price for different units, management & maintainent service charge, sinking fund,facilities and etc. Maybe if anyone here from Bolton Bhd could e-mail all these things to me, so I could discuss with my family, and consider is it worth to fly over to Penang for a site tour. My e-mail "jessieblk@yahoo.com". Thanks

 
May 2, 2008 at 8:21 PM Anonymous said...

You can visit their official website for enquiries.

http://www.bolton.com.my/bolton/templates/north_surin.aspx

 
May 3, 2008 at 12:05 AM Anonymous said...

Is it any promotion now for Surin. Or discount?

 
May 3, 2008 at 9:46 AM Anonymous said...

discount? not that i know of. In fact, surin is yet to be officially launched. they launched it 'softly' for one of the blocks. the official launch will be in June/July 2008.

 
May 3, 2008 at 3:11 PM Anonymous said...

Hello Mr. Lim
The price I was quoted over the net for Surin condo are from RM424,988 by their sale consultant and yet the company is advertising from RM388,988. Could you please explain why. May 03,2008 3PM

 
May 4, 2008 at 2:02 PM Anonymous said...

may 03 3pm, the 388k is the unit facing the hill. they are the least demanded unit (as i know). the 424k quoted in the 1300sf facing the seaview. i advise you to visit their sales office at Fettes Park. Penang and get the actual picture. they have all the price for each units, the layout, etc. At the same time, drive to the actual site and get a feel. this is basically what i have done b4 i placed a deposit for a unit. btw - i am not Lim. i am just a buyer sharing info.

 
May 4, 2008 at 4:17 PM Anonymous said...

Hi, u have placed deposit? How do you find the land structure? I heard it on hill side. Is the site's much higher than the main road? Which floor and which block r u buying? Which block do u think sea view & town view will be best? Do you know how much if on 15th floor sea view? I am not local can't visit their office yet. Thanks

 
May 4, 2008 at 8:34 PM Anonymous said...

yes, it is located quite high above sea level. i wont say it is on a hill slope. it will be built on a flat piece of land which sits quite high up above sea. For sure, it is above the road level. any of the sea facing units will have sea view. the 1st 4 floors are car parks. thus the lowest floor will be effectively 5th floor. In front of it are rows of landed property. they will not be blocking the view. for the 15th floor seaview, the price should be in the range of 450k. i got mine at 440k for a lower floor unit wth 1500sf floor space.

 
May 5, 2008 at 11:13 AM Anonymous said...

I was comparing Surin to Ivory's Island Resort 10 nearby. Although higher density, Surin makes a lot of sense. It's cheaper, nearer to town, comes with 2-car parks, lower maintenance, better layout. The only problem I have is that the Surin location is pretty congested with many other condos nearby. It should fetch good rental, and I can only see its value shooting up upon completion.

 
May 5, 2008 at 12:59 PM Anonymous said...

Thank you for sharing the information, unfortunately I won't be able to make a trip to Penang until the middle of next year due to my work commitments. Do you have any idea of the cost of maintainance and charges eg., sinking funds, body corporate fees, gov.stamp duty, council rates, legal fees and any other hidden fees. May 5,2008 3PM.

 
May 6, 2008 at 10:26 AM Felix The Cat said...

I was at the soft launch at G Hotel. All the good lots have been sold out. Except for those cheaper ones with not so good layout and view plan. I guess the promoters are using some kind of a marketing strategy to sell of the units.

 
May 6, 2008 at 4:26 PM Anonymous said...

Well if the good ones are gone I just have to shop elsewhere. I am sure there will be plenty more condos projects in the pipeline.You never know a developer might offer to buy the housing blocks below and build another high rise. I hate to think all that sea view will turn into another building.There is no guarantee.3PM

 
May 7, 2008 at 12:12 AM Anonymous said...

can anyone tell us how much is the maintenance fees ? I am waiting to know for so long. Thanks.

 
May 8, 2008 at 10:05 PM Anonymous said...

RM0.15 per sq ft. That was what I was told when I went to their soft launch late last yr.

 
May 13, 2008 at 8:45 PM Anonymous said...

Actually i like surin so much but the maintenance is RM0.25 per sqft quite expensive compare to other condo in Penang, so now i have to think twice.

 
May 20, 2008 at 8:34 PM Anonymous said...

I am at a lost. Should I buy Alila Horizon now or buy Surin and wait 3years, and bear the risk in the mean time...

 
May 20, 2008 at 8:48 PM Anonymous said...

alila or surin? i have the same dilemma few weeks back. my first love is alila but the price is crazy. i offered 100k above the original price but it was rejected flatly. they are asking nearly half a million for a unit now. i decided to go with surin since i am buying direct from developer and the price is quite reasonable. i will suggest you give alila a look and get to feel the environment. if you love it, drive a hard bargain and hopefully you will have better luck than me.

 
May 20, 2008 at 11:25 PM Anonymous said...

If seaview is important the choice is most definitely Surin. I also feel Surin is easier to get to, access to it is more direct & convenient. But, if you think otherwise and can't wait for another 3 years, Alila ought to be your choice if you are Ok with the price.

 
May 21, 2008 at 9:43 AM Anonymous said...

Thank you for both your comments. I love the fresh air at Alila but yes the price is crazy. 1st owners are making huge profit. So it might not be a gd investment for subpurchasers. Just for own staying only.
On the other hand, the vicinity of Surin is too congested already.
Sigh.. decision decision decision

 
May 21, 2008 at 11:05 AM Anonymous said...

Last week, they carried a full page advertisement in the STAR. anyone went for the preview? any info to share?...interested buyer

 
May 21, 2008 at 4:21 PM Anonymous said...

The only units left are the lower floor sea view units (1307 sq ft)from 14th floor and below, and the 1500 sq ft units facing Coastal Tower, and the units facing the hill. Prices are about RM430K, RM440K. I think the hill view units must be cheaper. The developer's sales staff said that the prices had gone up by 10% since the launch.
If you are interested, you should choose the units that are further away from Waterfront. Although Waterfront would not block Surin, but it could still block your sky on the left.

 
May 25, 2008 at 10:42 AM Anonymous said...

hi jess, if you plan to buy sea view tower in butterworth, you better seriously reconsider.

1. The are selling only 30%++ after few year launching. If not, they won't be so aggressively do open house / launching for so many times.
2. The house is overprice, that's why they must sell as many as possible before OC pass.
3. No sea view guarantee. You don't know what will be built infront in the future.
4. Bad reputation developer. You ask as many as park view resident, the developer actually over committed a lot of things but not given eventually.
5. Poor build quality. The price is considered luxury in butterworth, but definitely not the built quality.
6. Not a good investment. House price can't go up, look at park view. Not good to stay, because a lot of unit will be rented out to UEM, student, etc.

 
May 25, 2008 at 11:42 PM Boon Hing said...

Alila or Surin? I have just signed for Alila at 46X,XXX. It's facing the hill and I don't mind since the sea is too far away. Its a nice place and its cooling. Will be getting the keys after 3 months and I have no regret. Surin, yes its cheaper since its from developer but have to wait for 3years and its too congested. I just regret that I did not know about Alila earlier.

 
May 26, 2008 at 7:09 PM Alli Cat said...

Boon Hing
Are you sure you bought a hill facing Alila for RM46xxxx? Or are you trying to SELL it for that price? For all i know, there are no takers for roof-view or hill-view alila at that kind of price.If you have really bought it, you have overpaid, buddy.
Alli Cat

 
May 27, 2008 at 10:11 PM Anonymous said...

very beautiful design. everything seems nice. i dont like it too close to other condos around. so packed and high dense area. and its exactly on the hill. spooky.

 
May 27, 2008 at 10:12 PM Anonymous said...

Hi! I jz made up my mind.. made a booking for the Surin this afternoon.. Its above my budget, but i cant find a place 2 purchase that is not overly priced.. or if not the property is old. Hope i m making a wise choice here, cz the unit purchased not a seaview one, s all r sold onli left 2 at the lowest floor. So instead, choosed higher floor facing guard house :)
Btw, was informed by boltonese, tat island resort and moonlight bay project was cancelled by government, true?

 
May 27, 2008 at 10:19 PM Anonymous said...

Something 2 read about the recent landslide at moonlight bay & IR:
http://betelnutchronicles.blogspot.com/search/label/ivory

Wonder wt is goin on in Mr Lim's head? :)

 
May 27, 2008 at 10:24 PM Surin 21 said...

Yippee!!Just placed deposit for my Surin this afternoon.Now i'm the proud co-owner of Surin.No regrets.Surin should be a nice place to stay in despite negative comments about it being too congested with other surrounding condos.I went to Surin site last week.The place is very windy.So 3 years from now,I'll be sitting at my balcony enjoying the nice breeze.
I agree that there are other close condos but this doesn't happen with Surin only.Other condos also have condos nearby.So i don see the problem.
I just can't wait to move into Surin.Any1 bought units in level 21?we are neighbours.

 
May 27, 2008 at 10:45 PM Surin 21 said...

Oh.. I just want to share the info i got from Surin sales person this noon.Surin will be officially launch this June 24 at their sales office in Fettes Park.Both blocks will be launch.Block 1 seaview all sold out dee.Left only those facing Coastal Tower and the pool.

 
May 28, 2008 at 12:43 AM Anonymous said...

welcome to d club! cant wait for another 2.5 yrs for it 2 stand majestically!

 
May 28, 2008 at 9:34 AM Anonymous said...

wow, good to see more and more new owners. i signed the S&P 1.5 months ago. Got myself a Type B unit facing pool at level 5. if anyone wants the unit layout diagram for Type B, let me know. I have it with full measurement.

 
May 28, 2008 at 4:03 PM Anonymous said...

I've also just purchase Surin, it should be a great place to stay and to invest. We'll become neighbours in 2 1/2 years time.

 
May 28, 2008 at 7:49 PM Fiddler said...

Are the carparks front to back or side by side?

 
May 28, 2008 at 9:09 PM Anonymous said...

To the proud owners, i got a unit too facing the pool but the intermediate ones.. i could not get seaview units! crazy response from public. I wonder.. how many percent of buyers of seaviews are investors & speculators? Btw, hv anyone received the return of stamped SPA? I m still awaiting to sign mine.
Oh yeah.. the carparks are side by side.. and the higher ur floor, the lower ur car park viceversa. Fair and practical. Cheers!

s4surin

 
May 28, 2008 at 9:29 PM Anonymous said...

I wonder.. was there any hike to the initial price compared to late last yr? i was told by bolton there's none. But there will b one during june's launch.

 
May 28, 2008 at 9:53 PM Surin 21 said...

Hello, I'm back again. After a long day's work, I'm back to my fav blog spot to see if there's any news about my Surin.
To all those who welcome me yesterday, I thank you. I'm also looking forward to being neighbours with you guys. Knowing I'll have such friendly neighbours really makes me happier.
Hope to meet up when we shift in. By the poolside perhaps? :)

 
May 28, 2008 at 10:03 PM Anonymous said...

Hello fiddler, I saw you commenting in Alila also. So you are the proud owner of Surin or Alila? Just curious only. Cheers...

 
May 28, 2008 at 10:22 PM Surin 21 said...

Hi, can anybody advise me on which bank to obtain my loan from? Which bank offers interesting packages and low interest rates? Also, among Bolton's 3 panel lawyer, which 1 is recommended? I'm a 1st time house buyer. Don know nothing about house buying procedures. Thanks in advance.

 
May 28, 2008 at 10:38 PM Anonymous said...

surin21 - for the bank loan, i decided to go with ocbc. they are offering blr-2.05% for the whole tenure of the loan. You can start to pay the loan upon 1st disbursement which is what i am looking for. You can prepay as much as you want and the lock-in period is 5 years. furthermore they dont force you to purchase mrta. in fact the actual is blr-2.1% but they have a restriction where you cannot prepay for the 1st 3 years. i dont like this restriction and we reached a compromise of blr-2.05%.

 
May 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM Surin 21 said...

Oh, thank you for sharing info. Appreciate that.

 
May 29, 2008 at 11:01 AM Fiddler said...

I am just an observer who like hot properties, but I have not bought any of these.
I think OCBC offers one of the best rates at the moment.

 
May 29, 2008 at 12:31 PM Anonymous said...

I've purchase the seaview unit last week. I wonder how come you're can't get a unit with seaview. Anyway, my unit is located at the lower floor. I guess to deal with OCBC is good choice.

 
May 29, 2008 at 12:46 PM CCM said...

The seaview unit at the lower floor is alright too as the view is not block according to the developer as I needed assurance before purchasing it. Anyway, I've purchase it. I guess there are still 1 or 2 unit left with seaview.

 
May 29, 2008 at 6:29 PM Surin 21 said...

When I purchased my pool view unit last week, there are 2 units of sea view left. Both on the 1st floor and 1 of them is booked dee by a buyer who promised to come by to place the deposit. I din take the other sea view unit coz it's too near the car park. Scare noisy. Another thing is the cheapest is priced at RM380K+. Out of my budget. So have to choose pool view units instead. Got mine for RM370K+ which is still over my budget but what to do. Properties nowadays very expensive. Difficult to come by a suitable 1. At least there's 1 consolation. My unit is high floor. And I like beach. Can everyday go to the beach dee. Yahoo!

 
May 30, 2008 at 11:03 AM CCM said...

Surin 21, i purchase my unit last week too. Mine is at the 3rd floor with sea view unit. I thought they still have the 4th floor with sea view unit in which they named he th floor to 3A.

 
May 30, 2008 at 11:29 AM Anonymous said...

Hi Surin 21, proud to have such an enthusiatic neighbour like you. I personnaly love the beach as well. And also the Batu Ferringhi pasar malam.

 
May 30, 2008 at 1:39 PM Surin 21 said...

Hi CCM, maybe it's just my luck. I went to Bolton's sales office last Thurs and the only sea view units were both on 1st floor. The rest sold out according to the sales person. But anyway, I'm happy with my current unit. The view is the rooftop garden, which is not bad la. Especially if the landscape is nice, like those in Regency Heights. :)

 
May 30, 2008 at 7:36 PM Anonymous said...

To all my neighbours to be..
Did bolton execs mentioned 2 u all tat Island resort from Ivory was scraped? Wonder if its true.. If tat's d case, surely surin will b in d limelight n will hv a +ve impact, especially during nxt mth's launch :)

s4surin

 
May 31, 2008 at 8:56 AM Anonymous said...

Ivory was at Gurney Plaza last night promoting their Island Resort project. According to them, S&P stamping will be completed by July, work will start on Sep.

 
May 31, 2008 at 11:41 AM Anonymous said...

yes, ivory was at gurney plz last nite, still promote their island resort 1 & 10 project. only very few units left at island resort 10, on lower flrs. almost sold out. response seems to be very good.

 
May 31, 2008 at 7:27 PM Anonymous said...

I am considering buying but one thing I really dont like is the maintenance fee is super damn expensive.... RM364 per month......for a typical 1307 sqft unit...

You guys know about this? You need to add 10% sinking fund of your monthly maintenance fee to get a total

So its not just 25 cents / sqft. ITs 25 cents + 10% of total maintenance = RM331+RM33 = RM364

RM331 is calculated from 1,324 sq feet unit bacause in SPA its stated your unit total sqft is 1324 and not 1307

In comparison, Bayswater is just 15 cents while average is 20 cents and most already included in sinking fund....

 
June 1, 2008 at 11:11 PM Anonymous said...

hi, v cant do direct comparison of maintenance per sqft for surin and bayswater as both r in very different location and neighbourhood. maintenance for the immediate surrounding neighbourhood for surin is from 20 to 22 cent/sqft. anyway, surin's maintenance charges ord factored in inflation and priced 3 yrs from now. dont 4get, maintenance fees could go up for other ord existing properties. btw, residents commitee of surin could still decide 2 reduce d maintenance fee if deemed necessary.

 
June 2, 2008 at 11:17 PM Surin 21 said...

Hi all, I'm back! Off for few days. Went back to my hometown and here I am now. Back to my fav blog spot. :)
I think the maintenance fees is high also but if factor in the future inflation, then i think it's almost that price for all condos in future. I agree with the above anonymous saying that maintenance fees for other condos will increased in future to toake in inflation. Anyway, even if it doesn't then we just have to voice out to the committee and see actions to reduce the fees being taken.
That's the future. Just look on the bright side and see how things go from there.

 
June 4, 2008 at 9:38 PM Anonymous said...

I hope Mr. Lim from Bolton visits this site often. Was just wondering if the windows of Surin is the longish or the normal 1s which is from the waist upwards. I think the longish 1s (from knee upwards) are nicer.

 
June 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM Faryna said...

ISLAND RESORT scrap!!!!I dun think that can happened. The units are almost sold out. Unless Ivory is willing to compensate all the funds back to the purchasers. You can see the clubhouse for the Island Resort is almost complete.

 
June 5, 2008 at 9:13 PM Surin 21 said...

That's what I heard also. Island Resort is facing problem. Go to its blog spot and read the news. Some really bad news they have there. But don know if it's true.

 
June 7, 2008 at 5:11 PM Anonymous said...

with the rising steel, cement and fuel costs, just hope surin dun get into deep shit like oasis and ivory since it hasn't really statred yet.

 
June 7, 2008 at 5:32 PM Surin 21 said...

Don look down on Bolton. It's a strong company. Go to their website and do research on their financial background. Surin will not face problem of completion. Bolton definitely has the resources and capacity to continue. It's not fair to compare Bolton with Ivory and Nusmetro. Bolton is much stronger.

 
June 8, 2008 at 4:06 PM Anonymous said...

Surin21, do not confuse a highlighted concern with a disparaging remark. You are starting to act like a Bolton staff. Bear in mind we are here to share views and not listen to one-way-traffic comments.

Also, we are all very much aware of how a website can portray a company's financial's health..but then again, why didn't they see Transmile coming? :P

Cheers!

P.S. - I am a Surin buyer too.

 
June 8, 2008 at 10:23 PM Surin 21 said...

Exactly what you are saying. This is a blog spot for everybody to share their views. I'm here to share mine as well. So can i not give my positive remarks about Surin? I did not spite the other anonymous for commenting negatively. I do not see what I'm syaing here as wrong. It's just my opinion. Whether to accept or not it's up to individuals.

 
June 8, 2008 at 10:27 PM Surin 21 said...

Just to share what I found out today. I was at the Bolton sales office and was told by the sales person that from tomorow onwards sea view and non-sea view units are to be sold at additional 20K and 10K respectively.

 
June 9, 2008 at 12:40 AM Anonymous said...

enough la children... arguing senselessly for wat. Surin 21, just let him says what he wants to la.. Just take it with a pinch of salt and ensure Bolton do a good job for the next 3 years. We trust you can help us make sure :)

Cheers Bro!

JW

 
June 12, 2008 at 10:58 PM Surin 21 said...

Hi, can somebody plz advise me if it's true we have to appoint Bolton's panel lawyers to handle both the S&P and bank loan in order to enjoy the free legal fees? If either 1 is handle by other than Bolton's panel lawyer, then we don get to enjoy the free legal fees. Say, S&P is done using Bolton's lawyer and bank loan using other lawyer, we have to bear both the S&P and bank loan legal fees. The above was convey to me by Bolton's salesperson.

Today when I was getting the advise of a loan consultant, he said that it's not possible for Bolton to be doing this as none other developer is practising this and it's not logical for Bolton to pose this restriction.

Anybody has obtained their loan and signed the S&P? Did you use the panel lawyers? Was all fees absorbed by Bolton?

 
June 12, 2008 at 11:28 PM Surin 21 said...

Ohh.. I forgot to say thank you in advance.

Thank you. Thank you for clearing my doubts. Very confusing. All these S&P, loan etc. Don know who to listen to.

 
June 13, 2008 at 11:51 AM Fiddler said...

Hi Surin21, this is how "free legal fees" works: developer pays peanuts to the SPA lawyer, therefore it is important that the SPA lawyer gets the loan back. Otherwise it is fruitless for the lawyers. (Lawyers always say they are squeezed by developers.) So it is an understanding between the developer, the panel lawyers and the panel bankers that the banker must pass the loan back to the SPA lawyer. But if you loan is a "zero cost" package, there is no such thing that if you go to another legal firm, you must pay the legal fees for the loan. The only thing the developer and the SPA lawyer can do to you is, the developer will not agree to pay for your SPA anymore, and you have to pay the SPA lawyer yourself.
Hope this helps you to decide which way to go.

 
June 13, 2008 at 11:11 PM Anonymous said...

Fiddler,

I dun think you are giving the right picture here on free SPA fees. Maybe you have been misinformed. Let me set things straight here.

When a developer offers "free" SPA fees, it is an arrangement between them and their panel lawyers. And it should be FREE no matter whether the SPA lawyers eventually get the loan business! Please dun confuse! Its two different things! Yes you are right the panel lawyers normally earn peanuts per unit, but they have 200-300 units to do, so its an economy of scale thing. In the first case, why do we as customers have to care if they are earning peanuts anyway? Are you saying we are subsidising their earnings?

What the developer or sales person normally tells you is the same as what you advised Surin21. They want you to take back their SPA lawyer (which is normally their panel lawyer) and give you all sorts of reasons. Reason is so that they can kau tim the loan process faster and the bank can release money faster to them. If customer use a different loan lawyer, it will take time cos loan lawyer and SPA lawyer different and liasing between them takes time.

Also, keep in mind that the SPA lawyer is ACTING for the developer and will ALWAYS take care of their interests. Why do we as customers want to pass back the loan to the same lawyer whom we know will NOT be on our side??? We should pass to a different lawyer who will act for us and become a check and balance. I know this because I had an experience where the SPA lawyer tried to defend the developer over something the WHOLE world knows that was the developer's own mistake. Luckily my independent loan lawyer managed to settle the case for me.

Also, what makes u tink the developer's SPA lawyer is also in EVERY bank's panel of lawyers? One recent example, my friend's IJM SPA lawyer was not under Hong Leong's panel so the bank insisted the customer to engage another lawyer instead.

If you are unconvinced over my statements, feel free to check around. I am sharing this to protect our rights as buyers and not to be hassled around by the sales ppl with misleading advices.

 
June 13, 2008 at 11:57 PM Surin 21 said...

Hi, I called Bolton sales manager today and confirmed that info conveyed to me by the salesperson is incorrect. I can use 2 different lawyers for SPA and bank loan. In doing so, Bolton will still absorb SPA legal fees. I don know if info convey to me earlier by salesperson is an error or something else. Anyway, that's not important. Most important here is that the air is clear for me dee.:)

Similar to what anonymous above said, I heard that SPA lawyer will usually act for developer as it is them who hire lawyers. In the event of dispute, SPA lawyer will act against us (buyers). Whereas, if we use different loan lawyers, then we will be the 1 who is hiring them. So in times of dispute (if any), they will act for us.

I learnt the above from a fren. If the above info is wrong, plz feel free to correct me. I wan to learn. Thanks.

 
June 14, 2008 at 12:50 AM Anonymous said...

Hello everybody,

I'm on the hunt for a home and came across Surin. Can anybody plz comment on this place? Is it a good buy? Is the developer reliable? Will the project be delayed beyond the 3 years after signing of SPA?

Personally, I don like the 3 years wait. However, after searching thru Penang property market for the last few months, I think I'm left with no choice but to choose a new project. I found out that at the moment, properties are divided into 2 categories.
1) Ready homes whereby you have to pay a premium depending on the market demand.
2) New projects where you can be assured that you get the best price for that place. However, you have to wait for the completion and risk of developer absconding money.
Since, I'm not willing to pay premium, I have to choose new project. So what you all think about Surin? Positive and negative feedbacks are most welcome. Thanks.

 
June 14, 2008 at 10:01 AM Fiddler said...

Hi, to the Anonymous who commented on my comment. There was nowhere in my comment that I gave any form of advice that buyers must use developer's SPA lawyers for the loan documentation. If you have read my comments in the Island Resort blog, I had advised people not to use any developer's panel lawyers.

Anyway, thanks for being aggressive and say out the things that I thought I better keep quiet about.

 
June 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM Anonymous said...

Yo Fiddler,

Sorry for being over aggressive, ha ha! Was high over a beer and started to write like siao lang..

But hope u get the idea. This SPA panel lawyer issue is confusing lotsa ppl.

Cheers bro!

 
June 14, 2008 at 12:12 PM Fiddler said...

No problems, mate. We can express any opinion in a blog. I am a fiddler, and like the one playing on the roof, I also observe alot. haha

 
June 16, 2008 at 10:35 PM Surin 21 said...

Thanks to the above individuals who gave me valuable advise on the legal side of all these.

I'm looking forward to the launch this month end. I'll be going to 'ke poh ke poh' a bit. Also would like to know what is the actual worth of my place after launch since Bolton claimed to increased the price. Anybody going? :)

 
June 18, 2008 at 12:03 PM Jack said...

I've just contacted Surin to asked about the latest price for a unit facing the sea and also facing costal tower. It seems that the price have gone up by 10K for now.

The price for block A will be somewhere around RM 450K to RM460K starting from 2nd floor. Therefore, i guess block B unit price had risen about RM 70K when they launch the new block. Good news for us!

 
June 18, 2008 at 8:04 PM Surin 21 said...

Hello Jack,

The increased in RM10K is for the non-sea view units izzit? Or is it for sea view units as well? Coz I was told non-sea view is up by RM10K and sea view will be like 20K-30K. Anyway, the launch price you mentioned is what I heard also. Got frens working in Bolton and they told me that. Then let's hope that Surin will be a sold out during launch. Considering this, our units will be worth even more by the time OC is obtained.

It will be a consolation knowing that I'm staying at a place worth much more than what I'm paying for. Now all the more I can't wait for the launch to come. I wan to see what is the actual pricing. Yippee... Happy happy...

 
June 19, 2008 at 11:02 AM Jack said...

Surin21

The Block B seaview unit all sold out except one unit located at 2nd floor which is selling at RM 398,888. Anyway I hope unit price to rise above RM150K after the OC obtained.

 
June 20, 2008 at 3:27 PM Anonymous said...

Hi Surin 21...

HaPy to geT neighbour OVER like u.. hahaa..

 
June 20, 2008 at 7:11 PM Anonymous said...

with the current economic situation, i we should be more cautiously optimistic on the project being completed rather than celebrating over how much premium to be earned after OC in view the project is still 3 years away..

 
June 21, 2008 at 11:06 AM Anonymous said...

i agreed 100% with the above. no need to count the chickens before the eggs hatch. i think this is too premature for celebrations, these are challenging times ahead for the contruction industries. anything can happen. until the building is truly up and visible, not just some air space, then can celebrate

 
June 21, 2008 at 7:18 PM Surin 21 said...

If I say I'm not worried about Surin being completed, then I'm lying. It's true every incomplete project has it's risk. Even if the developer is reputable. But there's no point in worrying on the unknown either. Sometimes, there is no harm in dreaming a little. :) I do sometimes dream of how to decorate the house. hehe...

 
June 22, 2008 at 5:59 PM Multi-anonymous said...

i understand that there may be another project from ratu mutiara called waterfront (if i get it right) which may block the seaview of block A just right opposite the main road. as for the completion, bolton is listed and i believed their financial position can weather the rising cost of construction. it will just hurt their margin a little. i think only new or smaller developers will be doubted on completion of their projects especially those which are selling from 200k-350k. surin is considered a high end condo.

 
June 23, 2008 at 10:55 PM Surin 21 said...

I would like to ask if there is anything like deposit for renovation, deposit for moving in/out etc whereby you pay a certain amount of money to developer and then later can only claim back a certain % of it when you move out, say 90%. The purpose of this deposit was supposedly to insure the developer for damages which you as house owner might inflict on the building when renovating/moving in/out.

Can somebody kindly advise further on how this works? Is this practice by all developers or only certain of them? Is it compulsory we as owners to comply by this rules? Is this term & condition stated in SPA?

Thank you.

 
June 23, 2008 at 11:11 PM Anonymous said...

Proud owner of Surin:
Hi all, i actually paid my deposit last year before Christmas for Bolton. Bolton staff told me the S&P will be signed on Jan 2008, then they postponed to few mths later...so end up I signed on April..the staff said the piling will be started on April & yet?...bt I don't why was that happened...bt it's really abit disappointed...as this is nt a gd impression for the buyer right?...bt my bf asked me to cool down...the most important is the result...
anyhow, today is my 1st time to visit this website...happy to see all the positive buyers here...

 
June 24, 2008 at 9:02 PM Anonymous said...

To all the readers,
i hv make a phone call to the sales offce in penang enquiring the actual constuction date few days ago, as the result, they told me that the piling works will begin next month. i am so disappointed due to Bolton has been informed me that the constuction work will begin on march, when i 1st consulted them but then delay it to april then again delay it to june, and now they going to delay it to july. i am wondering how many months they want to delay it again?????i mean wat kind of nonnsence is this. tot the company very big and long established since many years ago as i have been told by the sales person in penang, nevertheless, the outcome is totally diff. i am wondering wherether the completion date will be able to deliver as promised by the company (2010). Today, 24/06/20008. 2 n a half years to end of year 2010. i am going to consult my lawyer wherther further action can b taken if Bolton failed to accomplish thier promises, as the completion of the construction due in the year 2010.
i am so looking forward to moving in but nw dream remain the same dream. =--(

 
June 24, 2008 at 11:20 PM Anonymous said...

cant blame them la..how strong listed company now also kecut la with the current situation. bolton is mid-sized property company nia...unless u are like sime darby, gamuda, mah sing and ijm..then maybe more steady lah...

 
June 25, 2008 at 1:30 AM Anonymous said...

To the anonymous up there,
I'm one of the buyer of surin too.. but i havent sign the spa yet and waiting for my loan to approve. Can i know if u hv ord received the spa stamped by lawyer? And when was it stamped? Thx in advance.

 
June 26, 2008 at 12:08 AM Surin 21 said...

Hi to all concern owners/would-be owners,

I signed my SPA today. Just wan to share what I learnt from the lawyer, KN Lee. Ms. Lee said she handled several clients who had their SPA stamped months back. I think this is good news since this means Bolton is binded by the law to complete Surin within 3 years from the 1st SPA stamped. Bolton has to hand over the keys latest by early 2011. Otherwise, they will be fined 10% p.a on the cost price (calculated on daily basis) which is payable immediately after 'Vacant Possesion' is obtained. All the above is stated in the SPA as interpreted by Ms. Lee.

Regarding the delay, I'm quite disappointed too. Wonder when Bolton will actually start work. But as long as they can deliver within the stipulated time, then I guess I have no complaints. I would rather have my home ready than receive compensation for late hand over.

I also had my earlier question answered. There are fees for moving in/out, construction and renovation. This amount will be refunded within 6 months once management is convince that no harm has been done to the building as a whole. The refund is 90%.

I learnt about other things as well but too much to be put here. My say is to go thru the SPA. I found out alot of interesting facts there.

Now I'll be waiting for the return of my stamped SPA.

 
June 30, 2008 at 2:42 AM Anonymous said...

Can someone advise me what is the on site construction progress to date for Surin? There're plenty of signage by the roadside these days to promote Surin, wondering what is the current sale performance so far? Lastly, if anyone here aware if any promotion package lately?

Surin is certainly at a strategic location, but execution is tedious under current environment. This applied to all projects n developers of all size. Many thanks.

 
June 30, 2008 at 1:46 PM Surin 21 said...

If I'm not mistaken, Bolton has not commence work on site. If there is also it will be at early stage.

Why not you go to their sales office to know more. It's at Prima Tanjung. Bolton send me an invitation to their launch this coming weekend but I forgotten the actual time and date. Deleted the mail dee. It's either Fri & Sat/Sat & Sun.

 
June 30, 2008 at 8:53 PM Anonymous said...

Proud Owner of Surin:

Yup, as Bolton keep on delaying the construction, I guess we should go & check it out ourselves.

 
July 1, 2008 at 12:22 AM Anonymous said...

May I know how much is the monthly condo maintenance charge. Thx.

 
July 1, 2008 at 1:44 PM Anonymous said...

RM0.25/sq.ft.

 
July 2, 2008 at 5:19 PM Felix The Cat said...

wow.....the right handside block above 5th floor is selling about rm600k and above.

 
July 2, 2008 at 10:21 PM Anonymous said...

its funny how you guys can syok sendiri over the price which seems to be "increasing" every other week despite bolton postponing their commencement for months liao. Relax la..

 
July 3, 2008 at 9:35 AM Anonymous said...

It's funny why some people likes to be the sour grape amongst happy optimistic people.

Everybody here is not counting the money that they will get. They are just commenting on the markert price, sharing info. Like everybody in other blogs. Everybody is also concern on the commencement of the project. News about the market price appears in all blogs. Why don you post your comment on all blogs where project has not commenced and see what is the response. Good luck to you if you do so.

 
July 3, 2008 at 12:09 PM Anonymous said...

Does anyone know how much the 1300 sqft condos were selling at during the initial soft launch last year? I heard they were selling at around $250k. Can anyone confirm?

 
July 4, 2008 at 12:47 AM Anonymous said...

I did read about the proposed initial price of rm250K from an article in the internet around 1st quarter of 2007, through an interview with the bolton ceo before the launch of surin. But through my queries from a lot of mortgage officers and sources, there was never such transaction at even near that 250k price. My opinion is that there's no way surin was ever really priced that low before.. at least hope not coz i'm buying at nearly 400K. even now, the price has increased slightly.. i think around 15% for seaview units.

 
July 4, 2008 at 10:14 AM Anonymous said...

Has anyone made an actual purchase the last few weeks? I wonder what the real actual selling price is nowadays.

 
July 4, 2008 at 4:23 PM Anonymous said...

I understand from the developer that the 1300sf units are going for approx RM550,000 and the 1500sf units are going for approx RM600,000. Note that these are all seaview units.

 
July 4, 2008 at 10:32 PM Surin 21 said...

Hi to July 3, 2008 7:14 PM


I purchased mine end of last month and I paid RM375,988 to be exact. 21st floor, non-sea view. During the time when I bought, the cheapest sea view was RM380K+. However, this price is only applicable for the 1st and 2nd floor. 3rd floor onwards for sea view was RM400K onwards. For both sea and non-sea view, prices jump RM4K for every 7 floors.

I think you should go to Bolton office to check out the latest price coz I think they change the price tag again.

As for the initial soft launch price, me too don think Surin was ever sold at RM250K. When I bought my unit, sales person told me that Surin was initially priced at RM350K+ and RM380K+ for non-sea and sea view unit respectively.

 
July 5, 2008 at 4:59 PM Ooi said...

Congratulation to all Surin owner, i am Ooi,mortgage loan officer from one of the foreign bank in penang, regarding the loan application , plz dont hesitate to contact me for any question. my e-mail is ooild@yahoo.com, 016-4861013

 
July 5, 2008 at 7:23 PM Anonymous said...

Proud Owner of Surin:

Hi all...I heard Surin had a soft launch around Oct 2007 in Maybank, Pulau Tikus. That was only opened for notified "big" account holders in Maybank. They had given 10% discount, means the price was only RM331K++ (non sea-view unit for 1,300sf that I have bought RM368K on Dec 07).
By the way, I was told the Maintenance Fee is only RM0.15 per sq when I paid for my deposit..Mana tau!

 
July 6, 2008 at 2:28 AM Anonymous said...

Hi Proud Owner of Surin,

I guess for all properties, the earlier you buy the cheaper. It's cheaper when nothing has been done to the project. As the project progress, the price will increased and more when OC obtained. This is in line with the associated risk. If nothing is done to the project, risk is high. Thus the lower price. As the project progress, sureness is more and thus the higher price.

I personally think it's not good to trust any salesperson too much. They can tell you anything just to get you to buy. I wonder if the maintenance fees/sq.ft is stated in the S&P. Haven't got mine back yet from stamping. If it's not, then I hope they won't increased it from the already very expensive RM0.25/sq.ft.

 
July 7, 2008 at 2:37 PM Jack said...

Hi All Surin Onwer,

Well, the S&P did state the maintanence fees is 0.25 cent per/sqft. I went to the launching last week and asked about when are they going to start the project, so far they told me that they will start this week. Just keep my finger crossing as I'm also a Surin onwer.

 
July 7, 2008 at 3:17 PM Anonymous said...

hi to every1,
been checking on tis blog & tis's d 1st time i actually comment.. i bought a unit there & i did ask the sales person y there's stil no commencement & wat they told me is actually quite true if u really think it thru. the contractors are actually revising all their quotations bcoz of material cost increase & tat's y there's delay on the commencement..

 
July 7, 2008 at 3:53 PM Anonymous said...

and btw, the completion is suppose to be 2011 not 2010.. coz i sign d spa on May 08 & were told by d sales person tat all SPA were sign at 2008.. so basically they hv 3 yrs time to handover to us upon our SPA date.. i sort of noe all this coz personally m fr a local developer firm as well..

 
July 7, 2008 at 5:31 PM Anonymous said...

Did anybody go to their launch and if so, how much are the units selling for now? Or is there someone from Bolton who can comment on this?

 
July 7, 2008 at 6:38 PM Anonymous said...

i was at the launch last Sunday. Not sure why but they only put up units from level 2-5 and penthouse for sale. the price for the 1500sf is from 549k-599k. the hillview is around 401k. the 1300sf seaview is 449k onwards. quite a drastic price increase.

 
July 7, 2008 at 7:51 PM Anonymous said...

were there any buyers since the prices are so ridiculously high?

 
July 7, 2008 at 10:36 PM Anonymous said...

Don't forget Bolton is actively promoting surin in overseas.. namely hongkong n s'pore.. fyi, the ceo is a hongkie. So that's why they are confident wit their pricing and given that projects are getting scarce lately and some projects managed to run into trouble wit mr lim's government and cant even kick off or halted.. approval and permits is getting more strict as hanky pankies are being cracked down. These are the kind of control that wasn't seen by previous government. And oso wit d increase in raw materials, more projects hv been postponed. It can only mean that limited options for buyers now for new projects of Surin's category. Anyway, Block B was 30% sold off to foreigners. They still c our property cheap.

 
July 7, 2008 at 10:44 PM Anonymous said...

With island resort, the peak, oasis likely to b cancelled.. imagine d sudden demand for surin created by those dissapointed buyers of those said projects. brezza will b benefit too.. but i will still prefer surin's community in tat peaceful surrounding. if i m not wrong, buyers 4 projects like vista gambier oso wanted to surrender their downpayment.. but i doubt they will opt for projects in tg bungah.

 
July 7, 2008 at 11:55 PM Surin 21 said...

Alas, I said I wanted to go to the launch but din manage to do so. Can anybody tell me how much are they selling for hill view of 20 floors and above?

I'm also concerned about the date of completion. Hope they are able to complete in time. I just can't wait to move in.

I hope with the prices of raw materials on the rise, Bolton will not jeopardise the quality of materials used in order to sustain their anticipated original margin. Everybody, let's put our hearts together and hope for the best, that in times of hardship and inflation, nothing bad will come to our dream - dream which is financed by our hard-earned $$$.

 
July 8, 2008 at 12:51 AM Anonymous said...

I think surin's price is being jacked up unvoluntarily by the cost of raw materials. Given its location, view, distance to the sea and surrounding density, its really far much overpriced.

 
July 8, 2008 at 8:49 AM Anonymous said...

I agree with the above comment. The increase in the prices is not due to an increase in demand but is due to the increase in material cost.

Given the current market conditions e.g. US going into a recession, higher fuel costs etc. The demand will not be sustainable and Surin is definitely seen to be overpriced compared to the neighbours in Tanjung Bungah.

Comments pls....

 
July 8, 2008 at 9:43 AM Anonymous said...

hey there!!
i was at their launch last weekend & there were lotsa ppl there. saw couple of group sign'g agreements thou.. show's that their respond's nt bad afterall

 
July 8, 2008 at 11:40 AM Anonymous said...

penang is now listed as UNESCO world heritage site!! it is a very prestigious title, many many countries will try their best to obtain it and this will be very good for penang, making it more famous overseas? any comments how it may affect property prices?

 
July 8, 2008 at 3:12 PM Anonymous said...

i'm from Bolton off. So if any of u hv any questions on Surin, you can jz direct ur quests to me. I will b more willing to answer all questions. i can c quite a few misunderstanding in this blog, especially on the legal fees, completion date & pricing.

 
July 8, 2008 at 3:31 PM Anonymous said...

Dear Anonymous from Bolton's Office. Its good to know that someone from Bolton is actually looking at the blog. As such, I will really appreciate it if you could please advise the following

1) why is there a spike in the prices? is it due to demand or is it due to an increase in material costs

2) When is Bolton starting work on the site as it's already JULY!!!

3) When is expected completion and handover date? 2010 or 2010?

4) What is the take up rate for the recent launch? Are the responses good?

5) What are the latest prices as of today?

Thanks a lot in advance

 
July 8, 2008 at 4:10 PM Anonymous said...

The reason for price increase is def bcoz of material costs. Contractors has been revising their quotation again & again.

Construction will start next week.

As for the handover, it will be early 2011, 3 yrs upon you SPA. This is actually standard procedure by the Housing act.

V did sold units during last weeks launching. I guess cust is actually starting to accept that property price is increasing no matter which location.

And lastly, our starting price for 1300sft, hillview, is starting @ RM364,988 & as for seaview, it's goin @ RM454,988 onwards for Tower B. As for Tower A, RM368,988 onwards for hillview, RM500,988 onwards for seaview.

 
July 8, 2008 at 10:40 PM Surin 21 said...

Hello to the person from Bolton,

Thanks for visiting this blog to clarify our doubts. This is greatly appreciated. You answered the most important question to me, ie. the commencement of construction and the handover date. Thanks again. I hope you will visit this blog occasionally say once a week to help clarify our doubts. May I know how should I address you since I think it's I think it's not so nice to address you the way I'm doing now. :)

I'm also of the opinion that the Penang properties are very expensive. For the price we are paying now for Surin, I can get a landed property in mainland. But alas, we are on Penang island and properties here a highly sought after by foreigners who favour beaches. I love Penang for the same reason also. And I think Surin's location is a nice place to stay.

 
July 11, 2008 at 4:09 PM Anonymous said...

thanx for your information.. now the price increase so high..
Surin 21, i think you r too over n look like you over confident lo...
if la, this surin juz half way n bankrupt sure you get crazy...haha..

lili

 
July 11, 2008 at 4:31 PM Surin 21 said...

Hi lili,

I don know where you got the idea I was confident with Surin. I'm worried about the completion date if you follow the blog closely. Maybe I din complain, that's why you think like this. I'm worried la since up till now Bolton still haven't commence construction.

But I don wan to worry myself for the next 3 years. So if you think I have to voice my worriness about Surin to show that I'm not overly confident or etc, then sorry. You can do my part. I don wan to get old so fast.

 
July 11, 2008 at 6:38 PM gigi said...

the price for surin is rising to unhealthy levels especially when the project has not even started. bayswater was already crazy but bear in mind it only skyrocketed after completion. lets really hope bolton lives up to its name.

 
July 12, 2008 at 2:38 PM Anonymous said...

Visited Bolton (Surin) & Uda(the Breeza) sale office yesterday. I agree with gigi, the price is unjustifiable considering its currents construction progress and location. Surin is not the only condo with nice seaview. I dun mean to talk down Surin, but consider Alila Condo & Baywater price before/during OC still more acceptable. But, seem Surin sale is pretty healthy until the recent hike, so buyer should have little reasons to worry about the sale.

 
July 13, 2008 at 12:14 AM Anonymous said...

i m bought the unit last year in G Hotel.Henry Butcher's agent Helen Tan told me that the construction will start end of the year 2007.But now already mid July 2008..nothing at the site..i hv been called Helen Tan few times but the answer wat i get is "please call the developer, we are just the marketing agent only" She just know how to money but dont know to provide the service, i m so dissapointed...

 
July 14, 2008 at 12:31 PM Anonymous said...

Still prob wif Henry Butcher Agents.. This Henry Butcher agents a selfish, the time they want to marketing the project they sooooooo frendly n nice attend you..but if you already bought unit from them, if got any prob they wont be nice to you n will say that anything just c0l the developer!!!! Same like Oasis Condo, the buyer call the henry butcher agent n asking the prob they a facing now n the same answer they get.. Please col developer, we just marketing the project!! Stupid, they should check the Project first before market that property.. Henry butcher agents are useless!!!!

@penanghousebuyer

 
July 15, 2008 at 2:01 AM Anonymous said...

HB get 2% from the sale price. To be fair, they should help to escalate their buyers issue to developer. However, for sure this will be far less effective as they are not involved in any developer decision making or problem solving process. My 2cent worth: bypass any agent even they offer u helps bcs it will only take longer time to get nothing done.

 
July 15, 2008 at 1:59 PM Anonymous said...

I went to the site last weekend and I saw cranes there. However, besides the cranes, I don see any work being done. Is this an implication that work is commencing?

 
July 16, 2008 at 9:22 AM Anonymous said...

To All Purchasers out there,

We have started with the earthwork.

Bolton

 
July 16, 2008 at 9:17 PM foreigner said...

Dear Bolton

As many of the buyers are actually foreigners including myself, we are unable to visit the site to monitor the amount of work being done. As such, would you be able to post photos or videos depicting the latest development on your website so as to keep the foreign buyers updated.

Would appreciate it if you could bring this up to your management

 
July 17, 2008 at 6:02 PM jojo said...

IJM's summer has started their earthworks. Its good to gauge Bolton's progress with that project. If they are slow, whip them into shape..ha ha!

 
July 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM Surin 21 said...

Is Summer open for sale already? I wonder what are the specification like pricing and size. :)

 
July 17, 2008 at 10:19 PM yoyo said...

check out the blog.. i dunno if its true. IJM going for record speed again...

 
July 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM Anonymous said...

IJM big company, got enough material n can speed 160ph.. hahaha... t00 confident. they will use cheap material n ugly fence like The Spring.. hahaha.. House price RM350k above but look like low cost flat..

Sue@

 
July 19, 2008 at 1:37 PM Foreigner said...

anybody been to the work site recently?

 
July 19, 2008 at 6:45 PM Anonymous said...

thats the problem.. i can foresee the low cost flat with ugly fencing is going to be sold out faster than surin and completed earlier than surin..sigh! sien nnia

 
July 19, 2008 at 10:40 PM Anonymous said...

Sold out faster doesnt mean tat the property is better.. in my opinion, surin will pass through the test of time and be a better investment compared to ijm's summer. community and surroundings will be the major deciding factor.. and it's not sometg that can be easily changed nor upgraded.

 
July 20, 2008 at 8:43 PM Confused said...

Dear Bolton

Henry Butcher's staff- Angeline Woo told me early February 2008 that the earth work will start in the month of April 2008. Now you guy saying that will start soon.I m right now in Singpore..so ..WHO should i trust- Bolton or Henry Butcher ?

 
July 21, 2008 at 10:01 AM Anonymous said...

Dear Confused,

We have already started the earthwork. Our initial planning was to start earthwork on April 2008, but due to the material cost increase, there's sum slight delay. However, everything is going smoothly now.

Bolton

 
July 21, 2008 at 4:37 PM Proud Owner said...

Dear Bolton

As such, could you please advise approximately when will the next progressive payment (10%) be due?

Thanks

 
July 21, 2008 at 11:14 PM Faryna said...

I stay around Tanjung Bungah. My husband exercise almost every morning at the stretch of road where the SURIN, BOLTON, site is. Can actually see some people clearing land. Some bulldozers working on site.

 
July 22, 2008 at 11:41 AM Anonymous said...

Wat the special for The Spring? cant see the special n uniq for this condo.. but not all unit taken from real buyer, bulk buyer took almost 85%...
The Spring start early thats y can completed already dont compare with this Surin..

sam**

 
July 22, 2008 at 5:36 PM Saber said...
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July 24, 2008 at 12:21 AM Anonymous said...

i have been told by Halen Tan (Henry Butcher) that she was sold more that 15 units to Arabia (as a holiday home/service apartment to the middle east people). She also told me that now is a good time to sell off my unit (unit 3) before OC obtained due to the economy downturn and also the afraid of the market value will be fall down if people knowing that The Surin is a service apartment (like MarVista,Tanjung Bungah).Its true ? Please advice me...Thanks

 
July 24, 2008 at 1:28 AM Anonymous said...

C'mon Surin is a condominium. In fact a service apartment value is higher compare to a condominium. A service apartment in KL is selling around RM1K psf. Did you know E&O service apartment "The Suite" (Under construction) selling at RM600 psf and already sold out. Queensbay masterplan did include 2 block of service apartment and The LIGHT too have service apartment in thier masterplan. The trend is towards service apartment in Penang which is very popular in KL now.

Don't confuse... it is nothing like Mar Vista.

My personal comment, most of the real estate agents in Penang know very little. No homework. They are not professional.

No hard feeling to all agents in Penang. I do believe there are good agents around too.

 
July 25, 2008 at 12:09 AM Anonymous said...

Hi Saber,
No offence, but i beg to differ about what u foresee as loud prayers from floating mosque. I've been to the site with the purpose of trying to gauge how loud is the praying. believe me, its not a major cause of concern. Plus if you are indoors, u might not even know there is a mosque nearby. but for marina bay.. it might be a concern though :)

 
July 28, 2008 at 9:37 PM Anonymous said...

Proud Owner of Surin:

Yup. I also experienced those 2non-professional agents from Henry Butcher. They are really sucks! They called & followed up, smiled to me & answered every single calls I made to them before I signed anything. After I have signed the agreement & paid the deposit. SHADOW ALSO TAK ADA!!! They did not pick up my calls at all.Furthermore, the details that they had told me also different from what Bolton actually offer. E.g., they told me that is only RM0.15 per sq. Arhhh... So sad & advice Bolton don't take them as agent again.

 
July 29, 2008 at 12:06 AM Surin boys said...

yes..Angeline Woo (Henry Buthcer) told me that the service charges is RM0.15 psf is more cheeper that Straits Regency and The Waterfront...When i asked her back,she told me the service charges is beyond her control..What it is means ?

 
July 29, 2008 at 12:33 PM Anonymous said...

Why this Henry Butcher agent hav this kind of attitude?

For all developers, dont take this Henry Butcher to do marketing for your project! They were make you all suffer n head ache with buyers..

 
July 30, 2008 at 8:56 PM Anonymous said...

its true ? Surin will be one of the service apartment for the Arab world ? How about those local people staying in Surin ? Wats is the position of Helen Tan of Henry Butcher ?

 
July 30, 2008 at 10:22 PM Anonymous said...

Hey guys, those HB agents r history s long s surin is concern. Btw, wat was d price of the unit u bought from HB? seaview or hillview? thx

 
August 2, 2008 at 12:26 AM Surin 21 said...

Luckily I din not buy mine from Henry Butcher.

 
August 2, 2008 at 6:11 PM Anonymous said...

Talk about Helen Tan(real name is Teoh Poh Ean, sister to Henry Butcher's Director- Teoh Poh Huat) i m so angry about her..when i bought the Surin unit from her, she recommanded the legal firm-Ismail & Khoo Associate from Premier Centre,Burma Road to me. She told me Ismail & Khoo is a sole.. panel lawyer to the developer-Bolton and developer will only waived the legal fee for S & P (we just need to paid stamp duty for title transfer only)if we using the panel lawyer.When the time i want to settle my bil,i hv been told that i hv to paid all legal fees ...so i call up Helen Tan about this matter,she told me that she didint say anything about waiver of legal fee..i m so angry about her attitude when talk to me, i cant do anything ..have to paid this bill. After that..i realised that Ismail & Khoo is NOT THE ONLY panel lawyer to Bolton..some more the lawyer-Teoh Poh Ai and John Khoo of Ismail & Khoo is a sister and brother in law to Helen Tan. Its a good leason to me dont trust them anymore.

 
August 2, 2008 at 11:53 PM Anonymous said...

Luckily now bolton terminated hb's services.. if not, their reputation will be drag down just as bad as hb's. another project, hb being the sole agent for nusmetro's oasis is facing a lot of problem from buyers.. and alot of complaints about their unprofessional attitude. how could a co as big as hb allow their staff to tarnish their reputation and also got themselves involve in troubled projects without proper due dilligence? guess they r jz as greedy as their agents and would care less about long term biz and buyers confidence.

 
August 5, 2008 at 10:00 AM Anonymous said...

waa.. good to Bolton. If not sure introuble...HB's not professional just need their commision only.. after they get, they didnt want to see u again..

Good Luck to Surin..

 
August 5, 2008 at 9:38 PM Anonymous said...

Hey guys, any1 has any update on the progress of surin? how much ground work done so far? thx in advance on the update.

s4surin

 
August 6, 2008 at 1:26 PM yes said...

hi fellow surin buyers,
took sosme photos yesterday and here is the link... no gaurantee that it will work.Photos are taken frm coastal towers
http://chnghs.multiply.com/photos/album/20/Surin

Try copy and paste

 
August 7, 2008 at 12:13 PM Anonymous said...

hi again
if the suppplied link to the photos of surin doe not work try this

http://profile.imageshack.us/user/chnghs/

 
August 8, 2008 at 12:18 AM Anonymous said...

Thanks chng, for the work progress pics.. i didn't know that it has already progressed that far. pls keep those pics update coming if there's significant progress. r u one of the buyer of surin too?

 
August 12, 2008 at 8:51 PM Anonymous said...

Hi,anyone can tell me what is the surin progress now?i have been sign the S & P two months ago,the HB agent told me the price has been increase nearly 100k it's true?

 
August 15, 2008 at 12:03 AM Surin 21 said...

I think Henry Butcher is really not professional at all in their field. I hope other developers will not use them in future. As for those buyers who bought thru HB, you have my sympathy for all the misleading news told to you.

I think we shouldn't blame Bolton for the worng-doings of HB as they (Bolton) won't know that HB will be so bad. Just a lesson to be learnt here.

Definitely there is earthwork going on dee. So I think thre's no point in blaming anybody for the delay. Nothing can be done. Just hope for the best for Surin in future. I also hope that Surin can be completed in time. :)

 
August 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM Jack said...

Hi all,

It has been long time I didn't log into this blog. So many comment from new viewer. Anyway, nice to see so many people purchasing Surin. We all will be neighbours in few years time and i think we should meet up when we move in Surin. Have a nice day!

 
August 19, 2008 at 8:48 PM Seaview said...

Thanks for your information .. I am also told by Helen Tan of Henry Buthcer that Ismail & Khoo is a sole panel lawyer to Bolton..telling lier to the client and misleading people, this is what she want because of her sister's legal firm. Its SO BAD !!!

 
August 21, 2008 at 11:57 PM Anonymous said...

Hi,
I dont think that surin has increased by rm100K.. I think must discount what those HB agents claimed. As for my not so good unit facing hill, I hope it will increase by that much once OC obtained.
cheers :)

 
August 24, 2008 at 2:36 PM Anonymous said...

Can anyone comment on my photo, what is the project now in front of the Surin? Please refer to:

http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surinug6.jpg

I have not been to Penang probably for a long time.

 
September 2, 2008 at 10:20 PM Surin said...

hi the above anonymous,
the photos posted by you are not viewable but i guess the project you are referring to is "waterfront" by taman ratu/ratu mutiara.
-s4surin-

 
September 8, 2008 at 3:23 PM julian said...

just bought a unit in Surin and looks like the earthwork are going at a good pace right now:)..i more or less monitor it almost everyday as I jog around that stretch of road..btw, anyone heard of the new price as there is gonna be a price increase anytime soon?

 
September 9, 2008 at 12:10 AM Penangites said...

Last few days, the surrounding area nearby Surin, Ratu Mutiara, Coastal Tower, havoc flooding with muddy water, road leading to the condo also like a yellow river.
Hillslope area also flooded. rare scene.

Think the water catchment area really affected by the intensive cutting of hillslope and over development of the hilly area.

 
September 11, 2008 at 9:55 AM lydia said...
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September 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM lee said...

this area when was raining season, definally flooding on surrounding entrance...

 
September 11, 2008 at 6:45 PM Faryna said...

I dunno how you guys come to conclusion that it will flood. Surin is located on a slope. Any water flowing would immediately drain it further as gravity work its way around. Surin is on higher ground. Dont think that flood is a problem at all.

 
September 11, 2008 at 11:52 PM Penangites said...

Faryna, no need to get suspicious about others statement, want to know the real fact, pls do some homework or ask any friend or relative staying nearby.

In fact, I got a photo, picture speak louder than words but not sure this is the right place to post.

 
September 13, 2008 at 1:07 AM Penangites said...

Surin - Penang Govt issued stop work order!

{Today the SUN page 4}

 
September 13, 2008 at 8:44 AM DodsTech said...

I think flooding is not the word here. Maybe mudflow or landslide due to heavy rain since the earthwork is on going.

 
September 13, 2008 at 10:28 AM Ex-in-none said...

May be there will be some delay as the developer have to attend to the request from the state gov. To build extra drainage system, and so on .....

 
September 14, 2008 at 6:15 PM mandy said...

Bad news...

 
September 15, 2008 at 10:39 AM lydia said...

may delay lor.. Extra cost to built extra drainage system.. Hope they can solve the prob faster n continue earthwork..

 
September 15, 2008 at 11:13 AM Felix The Cat said...

Due to the earthwork and heavy rain. The residents living down the slope complained of muddy waters flowing into their house. Bad timing and Bad weather = Bad Image.

 
September 17, 2008 at 3:17 PM Ballz said...

Good news...construction work on Surin is up and running after a stop work order for 1 week

 
September 17, 2008 at 10:04 PM mandy said...

oh good to hear to Surin is back to work again..

 
September 17, 2008 at 10:51 PM Surin said...

The cause of the mud slide is not so much of Bolton's as surin's site is secure and just need some work be done to avoid future recurrences. The Waterfront project is the main cause for the problem. Hopefully, after some rectification on bolton's part, there's no more such unwanted delays.. cause i just can't wait for it to complete :-)

 
September 26, 2008 at 4:17 PM elton said...

dear all,
any comment ? worth buying ? regards

 
September 26, 2008 at 10:20 PM cw said...

Hi all,i am new home buyer,just to ask a question,is the view of TYPE B high floor (16th)unit for Surin B blocked by Coastal Tower near its balcony? TQ.

 
September 29, 2008 at 2:15 AM Penangites said...

I think the stop order still stands for the two projects at that area:

According to a reliable source, MPPP will only lifted the order if the developers comply with requirements imposed by the MPPP. The developers will have to,

- Maintain the drains and retention ponds
- Clear the clogged drains, manholes and
culverts
- Build the second retention pond in GLM
- Build additional cattle traps (Tmn Ratu)
- Build additional retention ponds where
necessary (Tmn Ratu)
- Cover the slopes with grass
- Stabilise the slopes to avoid erosion
- Do whatever else necessary to avoid a
repeat of the floods of 6 September

Disclaimer: The above merely for informative purpose only and not to discredit the project or the developer or affect the value of the property.

 
September 29, 2008 at 3:41 AM Surin said...

Hi elton,
These are some of the reasons why I think surin is worth buying:
- good and secure neighbourhood/community
- When i bought, it was priced aprox rm290/sqft for non-seaview (still i think more worth it than spring and summer)
- free hold
- reputable developer and first project for them in pg (bolton simply must make this surin a success if they want to make it big in the north, after acquiring kejora with one of the biggest landbank in the north; and planning to add more in pg)
- A lot of units sold to foreigners and it's ability to attract foreigners with Dalat nearby
- Has it's own new access road
- Good facilities (especially the 3-tier security system)
- 2 indoor car parks
- I love the infinity pool with nice recreational park
- No worries that sea view would be blocked in future
- Totally free legal fees
- During reccession, middle end onwards properties (>RM300K) generally are shielded from its effect and no price slump

Hope that helps.

 
October 10, 2008 at 3:24 PM wani said...

Wat the price now? Increase?

 
October 15, 2008 at 12:29 PM Jack said...

Dear Wani,

Yeah, the price has increased.

 
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